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Dubas Do This

Created by: Amakiir
Initial Creation Date: Aug 8, 2020
Published: Aug 9 at 4:04
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya4$3,650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1$750,000
Vatanen, Sami1$2,950,000
Byfuglien, Dustin1$1,200,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
CAR
  1. Andersen, Frederik
TOR
  1. Burns, Brent ($2,000,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (NYI)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Brooks, Adam
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
TOR
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
OTT
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
TOR
NYI
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
SJS
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
NYI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,818,533$0$400,000-$318,533
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$3,650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Vatanen, Sami
$2,950,000
LD/RD
UFA
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
TOR
Woll, Joseph
$800,000
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
SJS
Burns, Brent
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 5
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Byfuglien, Dustin
$1,200,000
RD
UFA

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Aug 9 at 5:14
#26
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 77
Likes: 25
Quoting: JaredOfLondon
says the dude who traded the team's starting goalie, didnt replace him and brought in an expensive ass old guy who cant play defence for some reason


Hmmm Brent Burns can't play defense. Okay.

And yeah, we trade him because we can't afford to re-sign him and need the cap space. I'd rather pick-up assets than let his contract expire. Anything else geniosity?
Aug 9 at 5:17
#27
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: Isles777
Lehner and bishop were both vezina finalists and did not return more than a 2nd rd pick.


Lehner was traded with no years left on his contract at the deadline and brought in a prospect and a player in too, Bishop was traded for Cernak a conditional 2nd, a back up goalie and another pick
but yes, no more than a 2nd round pick
Aug 9 at 5:17
#28
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 77
Likes: 25
Quoting: JaredOfLondon
says the dude who traded the team's starting goalie, didnt replace him and brought in an expensive ass old guy who cant play defence for some reason


https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-defensemen/c-308545328

Might I recommend that you get some therapy. You might be lacking the ability to make intelligent statements.
Aug 9 at 5:18
#29
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: ChiHawk
Best recent comparable is what Lehner got at the TDL. Lehner was a better goalie hands down with even higher workload, and is younger. Plus getting moved at the TDL generally increases a player's value.


and being a pending UFA singificantly lowers it
Aug 9 at 5:19
#30
Verbero Sales Rep
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 1,137
The last thing the Leafs need is more offense.
Aug 9 at 5:19
#31
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: L_FACTOR
Hmmm Brent Burns can't play defense. Okay.

And yeah, we trade him because we can't afford to re-sign him and need the cap space. I'd rather pick-up assets than let his contract expire. Anything else geniosity?


that's right. Brent Burns can't play defence. He's an offensive defenceman who is 35 years old. and if you'd rather not have a goaltender, well i guess we'd better start checking who is going to be first over all in 2021
Aug 9 at 5:22
#32
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: L_FACTOR
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-defensemen/c-308545328

Might I recommend that you get some therapy. You might be lacking the ability to make intelligent statements.


lol, you're using a nhl network player ranking article to prove a point? yeah, now i know what we're dealing with here.
Aug 9 at 5:24
#33
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: L_FACTOR
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-defensemen/c-308545328

Might I recommend that you get some therapy. You might be lacking the ability to make intelligent statements.


even better, that list has PK Subban and trouba on it and both are ranked higher than Parayko. good job, good effort
Aug 9 at 5:31
#34
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Quoting: JaredOfLondon
even better, that list has PK Subban and trouba on it and both are ranked higher than Parayko. good job, good effort


You ever read an article before? Try reading the date.

Also you might want to look at previous trades before you talk s***.
Ondrej Kase
Barclay Goodrow
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Blake Coleman

All got 1sts, and you think Anderson isn't worth a first easy? You alright buddy? Might want to try a new hobby other than hockey and analysis. Don't hurt yourself.
Aug 9 at 5:32
#35
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,442
Quoting: overpaid_lil_pucks
You ever read an article before? Try reading the date.

Also you might want to look at previous trades before you talk s***.
Ondrej Kase
Barclay Goodrow
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Blake Coleman

All got 1sts, and you think Anderson isn't worth a first easy? You alright buddy? Might want to try a new hobby other than hockey and analysis. Don't hurt yourself.


what?
Aug 9 at 5:34
#36
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 77
Likes: 25
Quoting: overpaid_lil_pucks
You ever read an article before? Try reading the date.

Also you might want to look at previous trades before you talk s***.
Ondrej Kase
Barclay Goodrow
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Blake Coleman

All got 1sts, and you think Anderson isn't worth a first easy? You alright buddy? Might want to try a new hobby other than hockey and analysis. Don't hurt yourself.


Just leave it @overpaid_lil_pucks this guy is trolling. No point arguing with someone who has no sense of the game or logic.
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Aug 9 at 5:35
#37
Isles777
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 7,437
Likes: 2,868
Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Lehner was traded with no years left on his contract at the deadline and brought in a prospect and a player in too, Bishop was traded for Cernak a conditional 2nd, a back up goalie and another pick
but yes, no more than a 2nd round pick


Cernak was not a highly regarded prospect at the time - did TBL ever receive a 2nd rd pick?

Lehner was also a retained salary transaction - subban is terrible and the other prospect in the deal is a long shot to make the NHL.
Aug 9 at 5:38
#38
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,964
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Quoting: Isles777
Cernak was not a highly regarded prospect at the time - did TBL ever receive a 2nd rd pick.

Lehner was also a retained salary transaction - subban is terrible and the other prospect in the deal is a long shot to make the NHL.


you said they were traded for JUST a 2nd round pick, so that wasnt true. And again you are ignoring the fact that Lehner was traded to basically play 10 games for vegas who knows they have a next to zero chance of re-signing him
Aug 9 at 5:45
#39
Isles777
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 7,437
Likes: 2,868
Quoting: JaredOfLondon
you said they were traded for JUST a 2nd round pick, so that wasnt true. And again you are ignoring the fact that Lehner was traded to basically play 10 games for vegas who knows they have a next to zero chance of re-signing him


Alright fine, Andersen can get a high 2nd rd pick + a few AHL caliber players.

Vegas can make a run and lehner will likely play in more than 10 games - I think they have a decent chance at re-signing him. No state income tax and lehner might take a pay cut to get long term security.
Aug 9 at 5:46
#40
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,816
Likes: 502
Quoting: L_FACTOR
I think you guys could win a cup with a goalie. And if you don't like Anderson it's because you don't know Anderson. You'd be getting one of the top 5 goalies in the league. We just can't afford to re-sign him. And while your cap is tight, I think you'll realize soon it's probably the difference between you making a run to the finals this year or not.

Raanta, Bob, Hellebuyck, Rask, Lehner, Raanta, Kuemper, Vasilevskiy, and Gibson are all better. A couple are on the same tier as him.

He had 2 years of top 5-10 goalie GSAA other than that he is middle of the road. Not even close to top 5 goalie. He is a middle tier goalie not worth a low first needless to say a middle 1st. To add to it he is on his downslide production scale.
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Aug 9 at 6:30
#41
Buffsbrain
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 553
Likes: 124
Quoting: L_FACTOR
I think you guys could win a cup with a goalie. And if you don't like Anderson it's because you don't know Anderson. You'd be getting one of the top 5 goalies in the league. We just can't afford to re-sign him. And while your cap is tight, I think you'll realize soon it's probably the difference between you making a run to the finals this year or not.


A top 5 goalie? In the NHL?
Aug 9 at 10:41
#42
Buffsbrain
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 553
Likes: 124
Quoting: ecupirate07
Raanta, Bob, Hellebuyck, Rask, Lehner, Raanta, Kuemper, Vasilevskiy, and Gibson are all better. A couple are on the same tier as him.

He had 2 years of top 5-10 goalie GSAA other than that he is middle of the road. Not even close to top 5 goalie. He is a middle tier goalie not worth a low first needless to say a middle 1st. To add to it he is on his downslide production scale.


Lmao can't believe there was a human being that existed and thinks Anderson is top 5 especially after tonight. If he was a top 5 goalie they wouldn't be wanting to trade him
 
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