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We might have just given Carolina 13OA for a Cap Dump

Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:01 a.m.
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If we lose the lottery Carolina gets the 13th or 14th overall pick...
Good job Dubas. No playoff protection on the pick only top 10...
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:02 a.m.
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Dubas is literally a dumb person. Literally. No other way to put it. I've very rarely seen a team in desperate cap hell BEFORE winning even a round
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:02 a.m.
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Yep, one of many "brilliant" move by this team's GM who really should be getting fired over the next few weeks.
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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*happy Waddell noises*
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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Could have been worse. They could have decided that it would be unnecessary to protect the pick
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:04 a.m.
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yeah, i mean lou signed that awful marleau deal and gave him a full ntc and the only team he would waive for was the sharks who didn't want to trade for him or a team that would buy him out and only carolina woild do that.
Wow stupid dubas being left a landmine by lou
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:06 a.m.
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yeah, i mean lou signed that awful marleau deal and gave him a full ntc and the only team he would waive for was the sharks who didn't want to trade for him or a team that would buy him out and only carolina woild do that.
Wow stupid dubas being left a landmine by lou


This. What exactly was Dubas supposed to do? There was no way around moving Marleau and Zaitsev. People here are really dumb some times.
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:07 a.m.
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gonna be a long autumn
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:08 a.m.
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We appreciate it
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:08 a.m.
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I'm so mad the Sens weren't all over that. What a great bit of business for the Canes.
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:13 a.m.
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This. What exactly was Dubas supposed to do? There was no way around moving Marleau and Zaitsev. People here are really dumb some times.


Stupid dubas should also have known there would be a global pandemic that would mess up the season and create a once in a lifetime play in series instead of straight up playoffs and that would lead to a flat ca for 3 years!
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:13 a.m.
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If you draft good, and get really lucky, that 6th round pick TOR has from Carolina could be way better than the 13th overall pick you gave CAR.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:13 a.m.
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I'm so mad the Sens weren't all over that. What a great bit of business for the Canes.


Melnyk is too cheap...

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This. What exactly was Dubas supposed to do? There was no way around moving Marleau and Zaitsev. People here are really dumb some times.


Another Dubas is a top GM guy. What has Dubas done? Gave up Kadri for Barrie? Given up our picks?

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yeah, i mean lou signed that awful marleau deal and gave him a full ntc and the only team he would waive for was the sharks who didn't want to trade for him or a team that would buy him out and only carolina woild do that.
Wow stupid dubas being left a landmine by lou


Dubas just stepped on the land mine with only underwear on. No protection...except top 10... he was so damn confident his team would make a deep playoff run.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:15 a.m.
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Melnyk is too cheap...



Another Dubas is a top GM guy. What has Dubas done? Gave up Kadri for Barrie? Given up our picks?



Dubas just stepped on the land mine with only underwear on. No protection...except top 10... he was so damn confident his team would make a deep playoff run.


And what if Carolina said no to anything but top 10 hmm? Then what?
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:17 a.m.
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Stupid dubas should also have known there would be a global pandemic that would mess up the season and create a once in a lifetime play in series instead of straight up playoffs and that would lead to a flat ca for 3 years!


If they were actual contenders they wouldn't need the play in. Heck they may have missed the playoffs anyways.

How did every other team get better contracts?

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This. What exactly was Dubas supposed to do? There was no way around moving Marleau and Zaitsev. People here are really dumb some times.


You bridge matthews and marner and you don't need to move marleau.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:18 a.m.
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If they were actual contenders they wouldn't need the play in. Heck they may have missed the playoffs anyways.

How did every other team get better contracts?



You bridge matthews and marner and you don't need to move marleau.


And if matthews and marner say no? What then hmmm?
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:20 a.m.
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This is exactly why I’ve been smashing my head against a wall lately with this site. These trades don’t happen regularly for this reason exactly. Moving firsts to move contracts is horrible asset management. To be fair to leafs on that one didn’t have a lot of choices since buyout was mandatory and it’s just unfortunate the way series ended. I do feel for yous sucks having your city host the damn thing and your team being out so early. I know I’m in the same boat different conference.
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Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:21 a.m.
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And what if Carolina said no to anything but top 10 hmm? Then what?


Don't give Marner 11M; let him take the offer sheet. Keep 5 1sts and 11M in cap space instead.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:22 a.m.
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And if matthews and marner say no? What then hmmm?


Are you thick?

Matthews said he was open to anything from 3 to 8 years.

If Marner says no let him take the OS and take the picks. If he wants to be greedy let him do it somewhere else.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:25 a.m.
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This is exactly why I’ve been smashing my head against a wall lately with this site. These trades don’t happen regularly for this reason exactly. Moving firsts to move contracts is horrible asset management. To be fair to leafs on that one didn’t have a lot of choices since buyout was mandatory and it’s just unfortunate the way series ended. I do feel for yous sucks having your city host the damn thing and your team being out so early. I know I’m in the same boat different conference.


That's not the price for a cap dump... If that was the price Neal would cost more than two 1sts to move out (obviously not the case).

He's overpaid. At least Edmonton still has their 1st round pick...
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:26 a.m.
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Are you thick?

Matthews said he was open to anything from 3 to 8 years.

If Marner says no let him take the OS and take the picks. If he wants to be greedy let him do it somewhere else.


Are you psychic? Do you know that matthews and dubas could have 100% worked out a big enough gap for the bridge to be worth it?
Did you not know that marner turned down the offer sheet because it was too long and he wanted a mid length deal?
You're putting a lot on dubas that was out of his control
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:27 a.m.
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Don't give Marner 11M; let him take the offer sheet. Keep 5 1sts and 11M in cap space instead.


please let me know of all the offersheets that came pouring in
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:27 a.m.
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That's not the price for a cap dump... If that was the price Neal would cost more than two 1sts to move out (obviously not the case).

He's overpaid. At least Edmonton still has their 1st round pick...


james neal cost milan lucic
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:30 a.m.
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Are you psychic? Do you know that matthews and dubas could have 100% worked out a big enough gap for the bridge to be worth it?
Did you not know that marner turned down the offer sheet because it was too long and he wanted a mid length deal?
You're putting a lot on dubas that was out of his control


RFA with no arb rights... seems like we have to give him whatever he wants.

Dubas has done good things (Zaitsev, Muzzin, Mikheyev) but he's done a lot of harm to this team (Kadri/Barrie, contract signings, giving a 1st for a 1 year cap dump with minimal protection)

Everyone knows he gets pushed around on contract negotiations. Everyone else is laughing at the contracts we are handing out.
Aug. 10, 2020 at 12:30 a.m.
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Dubas isnt a genius
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Don't give Marner 11M; let him take the offer sheet. Keep 5 1sts and 11M in cap space instead.


And proceed to be dog **** and miss the playoffs by a mile.
 
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