What does Pittsburgh do with Anderson? We already will have Jarry and DeSmith

That would be a steal for us. The Leafs are my second team and it makes me sick to see them make a deal that awful but since the Pens benefit I’ll take it. Freddie is an excellent goalie. He let in one bad goal and we have to hear people trash the guy. I’m not a Murray hater but Freddie is much better

So we'd take Freddie and resign Jarry and trade DeSmith?

Andersen played well but his counterpart was goal better in this play-in round. Make whatever you want of that, but it's not just this play-in for me. The two playoffs before this are also in my mind.

DeSmith isn’t some hot commodity so not sure what we’d get for him but Freddie and Jarry would be dynamite

Yes keep the 34 million dollar line together - cause they did so well in this last series

Yea just run a 1-2 goalie tandem and then flip him at the deadline if you really don't want him. I don't know why this rumor is even out there but I think its more get rid of Andersen than getting Jarry to shake the team up. They're too comfortable leaving him out to dry and Andersen has some confidence issues I'm assuming

LOL it's cause the rest of the team was horrible.

Murray for Kapanen, Andersen

While I usually think people grossly underpaying in Murray trades, I think this is too much from Toronto. I do like Murray for Kapanen as a start with other pieces, but adding Andersen throws it way over.

Maybe its multiple contracts going back and fourth don't know what the rumor was

They in fact did do well. Matthews led the series in points and I think JT was second or tied with Dubios. How well did our depth do though? "We need toughness!". How did Clifford fare? How amazing was Kapanen? Nothing from the depth and the stars get ripped apart.

These are all terrible for Toronto

Exactly how many goals did that line score in Game 5? And they were also a -1

I don't think so. These players have been with the team for a couple years and haven't really stepped up. Kapanen has great potential but everytime he gets first or second line minutes he's garbage. Johnsson is coming off major knee surgery. Andersen trade is from a rumor but Murray won't be asking for crazy money cause he's at a low point right now but he has 2 rings. I don't think the leafs are gonna get Pesce cause Carolina is thriving right now, why trade one of their best D men. I know you didn't say that but thats a common trade in ACGM

They were buzzing but I get you

That's my point with the big line we had pressure with out we were on our heals - starting with the big line in game 5 was a mistake probably should of rolled the usual 3 lines that get it done and use the big line to close it out

They are terrible trades for TO - your essentially giving away assets while not filling holes - the TB trade is ok but not really interested in Johnson for that term or AAV - Keep it Simple move Marner for futures and Sign AP

Maybe but if Tavares doesn't hit that post, the outcome could have been very different. I wouldn't say TO was ever really on their heals in the series. Columbus had some sustained cycle shifts but never scored on them. The more I look back the more I think many hot takes on this series are just BS. It's disappointing and super frustrating but it's not like some other series. The Rangers had high hopes and were supposed to be a playoff dark horse and looked like they didn't belong. Edmonton was as disappointing as I expected them to be, they really are not a good team. Pittsburgh losing was a gut punch for them but its 5 game series, you can be out of it so fast. The Leafs went the distance and a hot goalie did them in. Props to Columbus. I for one don't see how anyone can really pin this on the core. Zeros for all the guys outside of the big 5 except for Ceci (of all people), Robertson and Hyman. That annoys me. I am so sick of hearing how awesome Kapanen is and how ****ty Nylander is. One of them had 2 goals and 2 assists and the other did pretty much nothing. I'll be the first to admit, I heavily over valued our depth. It stunk.

no, these are all terrible for toronto. all of them
Matt Murray is worse than Andersen and will be comparably expensive
The Nylander trade is for a big pile of meh
Andreas Johnsson is better than worth "mystical futures"
and the leafs dont need clifford

Oh I agree - here's what has happened in the last 4 playoff appearances by TO: 2010 lose to Boston in game 7 epic blown lead - Boston goes to the finals
2016/17: Leafs were never suppose to be there, lose to Washington in 6 - Washington lose to Pitts 2nd rnd - it took the caps a decade to win a series
2017/18: Leafs lose to Boston in 7 - I think Boston lost the ECF correct if I'm wrong.
2018/19: Leafs lose to Boston in 7 - Boston goes to the finals
2019/20: Leafs lose to be CBJ - TBD but I'd wager CBJ outs Tampa again ( let's not kid ourselves Tampa is a reg season team) CBJ could go all the way

I think Columbus needs good matchups to win. Tampa if they are not healthy (Hedman and Stamkos) are in real danger. But other teams that are very good defensively as well will shut them down. Boston and Carolina are both teams that would give them trouble.

Just to defend tampa here a little, in 17/18 Bos got swept in the 2nd round by tampa then tampa lost in ecf to caps

I guess we'll see what Tampa team shows up and if CBJ can do it again

It's not like the Leafs got lit up on the score board - no more than CBJ did

Tampa winning the cup wouldn't surprise me at all, however, them losing to Columbus also wouldn't surprise me.