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Marner trade to fix the D

Created by: lifeofadman
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 11, 2020
Published: Aug. 11, 2020
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Lets be real here, Marner has value. Dallas is a low scoring team, get them some scoring and snag a top RHD and a speedy young forward.

Got rid of the Cernak trade because Tampa can't afford it. Johnsson for Lybushkin I've seen kicked around a lot here so lets try that instead
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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Edited Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
I’m still on the idea that you keep Mitch and trade Nylander. Mitch is clearly better and Nylander can still get a top RHD to play with Rielly

By year 4 Kane has 303 points in 317 games for Chicago. Marner has 293 points in 300 games. I don’t get the Marner bashing
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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If Marner has value then don't just throw him away for that garbage package. He won't be moved anyways.

For what Kapanen and Dermott cost, Tampa could just sign Cernak.

Holl is still a serviceable NHL d-man and just signed a new deal. He'll be staying
Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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I’m still on the idea that you keep Mitch and trade Nylander. Mitch is clearly better and Nylander can still get a top RHD to play with Rielly


is he $4m better?
Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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TOR needed D, you added 2 but in the process, trades away 2. Still short D.

Sandin (being a rookie) and Lehtonen (adjusting your first year in NA hockey) could be a disaster.

Not to mention one injury and this thing could fall apart
Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
If Marner has value then don't just throw him away for that garbage package. He won't be moved anyways.

For what Kapanen and Dermott cost, Tampa could just sign Cernak.

Holl is still a serviceable NHL d-man and just signed a new deal. He'll be staying


Klingberg is a solid top RHD and Gurianov has fantastic speed that can catch defenses off guard. Paired with the cap savings I see it as a solid package
Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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WHAT a Toronto post keeping Anderson!!!! Didn’t even look at the trades closely and will already say this teams comes ahead of the others being posted!!!
Aug. 11, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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TOR needed D, you added 2 but in the process, trades away 2. Still short D.

Sandin (being a rookie) and Lehtonen (adjusting your first year in NA hockey) could be a disaster.

Not to mention one injury and this thing could fall apart


Theres 5M in cap space to bolster the roster. This is a good lineup to start the season, you make adjustments from there.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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I’m still on the idea that you keep Mitch and trade Nylander. Mitch is clearly better and Nylander can still get a top RHD to play with Rielly

By year 4 Kane has 303 points in 317 games for Chicago. Market has 293 points in 300 games. I don’t get the Marner bashing


Nylander outscored him in the playoffs and was a bigger play driver than Marner was. I don't get the Nylander hate on here. Besides that, TO's defence wasn't the reason they lost. Korpisalo was hot and the depth didn't do a damn thing. Maybe that's the problem. Trade Kapanen or Mikheyev and give other guys a shot. I thought Engval was far more impactful than Kapanen was in the playoffs. The big money guys scored but not enough to carry the team. Let's hold those guys accountable.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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Stars pass. You’d have to take Pavs or Rads to make the cap work
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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Stars pass. You’d have to take Pavs or Rads to make the cap work


Trade leaves the Stars with $12M to sign an RD, backup goalie, and 2 Non-roster players
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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Trade leaves the Stars with $12M to sign an RD, backup goalie, and 2 Non-roster players


This year would be okay. Next year would be the issue as Pavs and Rads still have one more year on their deal and we have to pay Miro. Toronto made a mistake paying a winger that much money. It’s gonna make moving him difficult imho
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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This year would be okay. Next year would be the issue as Pavs and Rads still have one more year on their deal and we have to pay Miro. Toronto made a mistake paying a winger that much money. It’s gonna make moving him difficult imho


WIth the new TV deal coming and Seattle happening all signs pointed to the cap going up, Toronto got royally screwed cap wise by the pandemic. Not sure if you can really blame anyone. Who could have predicted this when the virus didnt even exist when Mitch signed
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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WIth the new TV deal coming and Seattle happening all signs pointed to the cap going up, Toronto got royally screwed cap wise by the pandemic. Not sure if you can really blame anyone. Who could have predicted this when the virus didnt even exist when Mitch signed


That’s fair. Just a lot of cap to have tied up in Marner, Matthews, and T. Even if the cap did go up. If y’all drafted and developed like my Stars, you’d be in a world of hurt lol
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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I’m still on the idea that you keep Mitch and trade Nylander. Mitch is clearly better and Nylander can still get a top RHD to play with Rielly

By year 4 Kane has 303 points in 317 games for Chicago. Market has 293 points in 300 games. I don’t get the Marner bashing


Knee jerk reaction by our loyal Leaf fans. We all need a scapegoat.

I'm with you. Marner is too valuable on the ice. Not to mention, his contract hinders Dubas from getting what he is worth. Just keep him and move on from Nylander. Maybe look for a natural 2/3C and a RHD in another move. My candidates for trade include Nylander, Kap, Johnsson, Kerfoot, Anderson and Reilly. Not saying all will be moved, but I would at least explore the market.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Nylander outscored him in the playoffs and was a bigger play driver than Marner was. I don't get the Nylander hate on here. Besides that, TO's defence wasn't the reason they lost. Korpisalo was hot and the depth didn't do a damn thing. Maybe that's the problem. Trade Kapanen or Mikheyev and give other guys a shot. I thought Engval was far more impactful than Kapanen was in the playoffs. The big money guys scored but not enough to carry the team. Let's hold those guys accountable.


I'm in no way bashing Nylander. I just think he'll bring back a better comparable return. Marner might be easier to move next year when his actual salary drops even further than his cap hit.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.
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Klingberg is a solid top RHD and Gurianov has fantastic speed that can catch defenses off guard. Paired with the cap savings I see it as a solid package


Klingberg is an app offence type of guy. Just a better version of Barrie. Don't need that. Gurianov is a worse version of Kapanen. Don't need that either.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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I’m still on the idea that you keep Mitch and trade Nylander. Mitch is clearly better and Nylander can still get a top RHD to play with Rielly

By year 4 Kane has 303 points in 317 games for Chicago. Market has 293 points in 300 games. I don’t get the Marner bashing


1000% agree. He’s also paid the same amount soooo....
Aug. 11, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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I'm in no way bashing Nylander. I just think he'll bring back a better comparable return. Marner might be easier to move next year when his actual salary drops even further than his cap hit.


I wouldn't trade either of them. It's not needed. They need an upgrade over Ceci because he is total trash. Hopefully Sandin and Liljegren take a step and if so then we are better
Aug. 11, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade either of them. It's not needed. They need an upgrade over Ceci because he is total trash. Hopefully Sandin and Liljegren take a step and if so then we are better


I could see Dubas not taking away from the core, however, hoping Lily and Sandin are ready to take regular duty out the gate may be a stretch.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 1:33 a.m.
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Klingberg is an app offence type of guy. Just a better version of Barrie. Don't need that. Gurianov is a worse version of Kapanen. Don't need that either.


Gurianov is miles better than Kapanen bruh 😭
 
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