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Adding Vets for next season

Created by: Blazingbat11
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 12, 2020
Published: Aug. 12, 2020
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ARI trade:
This is a money deal. ARI add a young dman they can sign for cheap. and even if they take Alzner with 2 years left on his deal, they save $4mil cash.

So ARI get the younger player, and saves money.
Habs get a 35 year old vet Dman that can legitimately play top 4 (and on the PP!!!), and a speedy, although overpaid 4th liner that I think would fit well on the roster.

Both Goligoski and Grabner's contract expire after next season, So MTL get the added benefit of shaving off Alzner's last year of his contract. and ARI already have Goligoski's replacement for the top 4 with Chychrun (who's a stud but currently playing 3rd pairing behind OEL and Goligoski)

Both teams win in this deal


WIN trade:
For Domi to WIN. I'm going for a Pacioretty type deal. Heinola is the key piece coming back (similar to Suzuki), Lowry serves an underrated pick up (physical two-way C who can win F/O), and a pick. I also like the idea of reuniting Armia and Lowry, WIN were known for their depth back then.



In this situation too Goligoski serves as a 1 year stop gap to not rush either or of Romanov or Heinola.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:49 a.m.
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Kulak > Goligoski
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:57 a.m.
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Kulak > Goligoski


Agreed. Also, I would keep Mete (he’s underrated by fans) and I wouldn’t trade Domi for that. I love what Domi brings to the roster. Sure I love Heinola (I wanted us to draft him at 15 last year until I realized that Caufield dropped into our lap) but I’d want more coming back. We don’t really need to trade him, so, if Domi gets dealt, it will be a 1 for 1 Marc Bergevin Special or it will be an overpayment by the other team.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:10 a.m.
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Kulak > Goligoski


There must be a different Kulak I'm not aware of on the Habs then....

Brett Kulak - 7pts in 56 games (0g 7a)
Alex Goligoski - 32pts in 70 games (4g 28a)

Goligoski can also run the point of a PP (something MTL has not had since Markov's departure)

Sorry fellas, the difference is night and day here. Kulak had an amazing series against PIT don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day Kulak isn't a top 4 dman. Goligoski is, and plays a style that the Habs are desperate for.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:16 a.m.
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There must be a different Kulak I'm not aware of on the Habs then....

Brett Kulak - 7pts in 56 games (0g 7a)
Alex Goligoski - 32pts in 70 games (4g 28a)

Goligoski can also run the point of a PP (something MTL has not had since Markov's departure)

Sorry fellas, the difference is night and day here. Kulak had an amazing series against PIT don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day Kulak isn't a top 4 dman. Goligoski is, and plays a style that the Habs are desperate for.


Maybe we can try him and if he’s not good, Kulak take is place. Kulak was amazing last year, had a rough year this season but bounce back in the playoffs
Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:36 a.m.
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Agreed. Also, I would keep Mete (he’s underrated by fans) and I wouldn’t trade Domi for that. I love what Domi brings to the roster. Sure I love Heinola (I wanted us to draft him at 15 last year until I realized that Caufield dropped into our lap) but I’d want more coming back. We don’t really need to trade him, so, if Domi gets dealt, it will be a 1 for 1 Marc Bergevin Special or it will be an overpayment by the other team.


If Domi would be willing to play wing, I'd keep him 100% and have zero interest in moving him. But if he stays at C we have to move him this offseason, he's being wasted on the 4th line, and he's not bumping the 3 C's above him. A 1v1 trade would be nice. But in this scenario a package deal makes more sense, If Habs don't trade for Goligoski, go for a Hanifin/Lindholm type player for Domi. In this situation though you have more upside short and long term though. Goligoski now (proven PP Top 4 D) Heinola later (high upside).
If you trade for Heinola (top prospect), you aren't getting another 1st. ain't gonna happen. It didn't happen with Pacioretty, it's not going to happen for Domi. Looking back at the Patches trade, back then Suzuki's value would be fairly close to what Heinola's now. We just got lucky that Suzuki blew past expectations.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:39 a.m.
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Maybe we can try him and if he’s not good, Kulak take is place. Kulak was amazing last year, had a rough year this season but bounce back in the playoffs


I wouldn't go as far as saying amazing for Kulak 2 season ago. but he deserved the contract he got for it. We just can't play him (on a consistent basis) in the top 4. but he's a perfect plug for injuries on any pairing, or if one of the kids isn't ready (Romanov) he can easily jump in the line up.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:40 a.m.
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If Domi would be willing to play wing, I'd keep him 100% and have zero interest in moving him. But if he stays at C we have to move him this offseason, he's being wasted on the 4th line, and he's not bumping the 3 C's above him. A 1v1 trade would be nice. But in this scenario a package deal makes more sense, If Habs don't trade for Goligoski, go for a Hanifin/Lindholm type player for Domi. In this situation though you have more upside short and long term though. Goligoski now (proven PP Top 4 D) Heinola later (high upside).
If you trade for Heinola (top prospect), you aren't getting another 1st. ain't gonna happen. It didn't happen with Pacioretty, it's not going to happen for Domi. Looking back at the Patches trade, back then Suzuki's value would be fairly close to what Heinola's now. We just got lucky that Suzuki blew past expectations.


I was thinking about about a second and a small asset instead of a 3rd and a Lowry. I agree with all of this except the Gologoski part, I would rather play Kulak and Mete tbh. Mete is wayyy better defensively and Kulak is good with Petry.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 4:51 a.m.
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Agreed. Also, I would keep Mete (he’s underrated by fans) and I wouldn’t trade Domi for that. I love what Domi brings to the roster. Sure I love Heinola (I wanted us to draft him at 15 last year until I realized that Caufield dropped into our lap) but I’d want more coming back. We don’t really need to trade him, so, if Domi gets dealt, it will be a 1 for 1 Marc Bergevin Special or it will be an overpayment by the other team.


Also, if any of you have seen some of my previous posts... I'm not high on Mete at all. If he has any decent value on the market this offseason, I would move him. Sure he's still young, but with young guys you have to project what they can achieve with their potential... So doing that with Mete....even in his prime, he will be a hindrance when games become physical. in terms of his offense, you usually want your Dman to be able to produce from the point, Mete so far has only shown that he can only produce when he pinches down low, which is very situational and not something you can consistently do (or else you get caught and leave odd man rushes). He has no shot, let's face it, we've all seen his slapper from the point lol even Mete knows he shouldn't use it. So his only real upside is his transition game, that can only get better. but once you get in either the offensive or defensive zone... he becomes a well below average Dman. Which is why we almost never see him on any special teams...

So if the Habs want to upgrade at LD. Keep Chiarot, make room for Romanov, have Kulak as a solid spare, and try and get a more complete player that can play a PP. That leaves Mete as the odd man out.
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I was thinking about about a second and a small asset instead of a 3rd and a Lowry. I agree with all of this except the Gologoski part, I would rather play Kulak and Mete tbh. Mete is wayyy better defensively and Kulak is good with Petry.


Completely disagree with bolded statement. I agree with the Petry - Kulak pairing, thumbs up.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 5:11 a.m.
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Also, if any of you have seen some of my previous posts... I'm not high on Mete at all. If he has any decent value on the market this offseason, I would move him. Sure he's still young, but with young guys you have to project what they can achieve with their potential... So doing that with Mete....even in his prime, he will be a hindrance when games become physical. in terms of his offense, you usually want your Dman to be able to produce from the point, Mete so far has only shown that he can only produce when he pinches down low, which is very situational and not something you can consistently do (or else you get caught and leave odd man rushes). He has no shot, let's face it, we've all seen his slapper from the point lol even Mete knows he shouldn't use it. So his only real upside is his transition game, that can only get better. but once you get in either the offensive or defensive zone... he becomes a well below average Dman. Which is why we almost never see him on any special teams...

So if the Habs want to upgrade at LD. Keep Chiarot, make room for Romanov, have Kulak as a solid spare, and try and get a more complete player that can play a PP. That leaves Mete as the odd man out.


100% agree, but we don’t know if Romanov is ready, when Norlinder Harris are gonna be ready, if Juulsen will be good next year. So we keep Mete on the 3rd pairing and if someone is playing better than him, we could move him. This summer isn’t the time tho
Aug. 12, 2020 at 7:52 a.m.
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arizona's not going to take that. mtl has to add.

gologoski > mete
grabner > alzner
Aug. 12, 2020 at 8:02 a.m.
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Now that's a Domi trade that the Jets should make without question, would rather have a 6th round pick then Lindgren though.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.
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arizona's not going to take that. mtl has to add.

gologoski > mete
grabner > alzner


Again ARI save on $$$, and they get a 22yo Dman for a 35yo Dman . Not to mention they get close to $6mil in cap relief if they keep Alzner in the minors.
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Again ARI save on $$$, and they get a 22yo Dman for a 35yo Dman . Not to mention they get close to $6mil in cap relief if they keep Alzner in the minors.


but the difference in skill in no way makes up for the money. if mtl kept alzner then that would be a trade to consider.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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No chance the Jets consider the Domi deal. No way they move Heinola for Domi. Lindgen adds zero value to the deal.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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Yep I like this from a MTL perspective. Good job
Aug. 12, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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I like your approach. Very different from all the PS4 blockbusters we see everyday here!
I would skim both deals down to focus on Lowry from the Jets and Goligoski from the Yotes. Don't need Grabner, we got Byron. And Domi can be dangled at other teams to get a better return...
Aug. 12, 2020 at 11:04 a.m.
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That's a lot to pay for Domi, No way Jets make that deal. Maybe Lowry for Domi one for one is a little closer
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