The problem is that the Rangers need help on C (either 1/2 line) and LHD. If they trade down to pick a center they don't need another one in trade return

I wouldn’t give all that up.

Both teams decline.

These two teams will make a trade like this

Kupari will be a RW at the NHL level and Madden can be the 3/4C in a couple years. Grundstrom at 3LW

Also they will most likely be trading Strome and maybe DeAngelo too so there's your LD right there.

The only way we even put it up to a discussion is#2 and turcott and I’m still not sure if we do it

If you have Byfield then you don't need Turcotte. The gap between Lafreniere and Byfield is not Turcotte lol. They both have superstar ceiling.

My point is we’re not trading it and if we did it would have to be a massive offer

I HIGHLY doubt that. I guess we'll see.

U can highly doubt whatever u want but u take the best player out there and deal with the needa in other ways. We have picks and players we can trade to make a 2c happen if we need... or just stick with strome as he has good chemistry with panarin