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Trade Up for Lafreniere

Created by: tkecanuck341
Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 12, 2020
Published: Aug. 12, 2020
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After hearing "fair" trades from both sides, I've coalesced around this offer as being a realistic proposal. Curious to know your thoughts.
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Lafreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
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  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. 2020 1st round pick (NYR)
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  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
  2. 2020 1st round pick (LAK)
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19$81,500,000$61,263,030$0$2,657,500$20,236,970
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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Will cost more
Aug. 12, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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Please don't waste your energy. We aren't moving the pick.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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I’m hoping it doesn’t happen so Ottawa can end up with Byfield
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Please don't waste your energy. We aren't moving the pick.


The comments have been about 50/50 on both mine and Tkecanuck341's ACGMs on this topic from Rangers fans so we aren't really wasting our energy...
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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I wouldn't do this if I were LA. The Kings are better off with Kaliyev and Stutzle than Lafreniere and no Kaliyev IMO.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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I don't think so. It makes sense on paper, as NYR needs a 2C more than they need wingers, but I do not see a universe where they give up the pick.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
The comments have been about 50/50 on both mine and Tkecanuck341's ACGMs on this topic from Rangers fans so we aren't really wasting our energy...


Doesn’t matter what posters on CF say, the Rangers aren’t trading Lafrienere, that would be a bad choices. And if all you are getting is Arthur “I shall not play defense ever” Kaliyev that’s an easier no.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
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In a vacuum I think this trade is pretty fair, but as stated above I don’t think the Rangers consider moving it without a solid 2C involved, nor do I think Los Angeles wants to package Kaliyev with the pick considering who’s available at 2nd. There isn’t really a scenario where there’s a good trade to be made I feel.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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Universally disliked by both sides as "not enough" and "too much" I think I might be on to something here.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15
Doesn’t matter what posters on CF say, the Rangers aren’t trading Lafrienere, that would be a bad choices. And if all you are getting is Arthur “I shall not play defense ever” Kaliyev that’s an easier no.


If it doesn't matter what the CF users say, doesn't that include you too?

It's not unrealistic to think the Rangers would consider trading down 1 pick for Byfield while getting good assets as well especially when Byfield is superstar caliber too and plays a position they desperately need. They are deep at LW. This is not farfetched thinking...

Lafreniere is not a generational talent which makes it easier to consider moving down 1 pick.
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Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
The comments have been about 50/50 on both mine and Tkecanuck341's ACGMs on this topic from Rangers fans so we aren't really wasting our energy...


Ok but cherrypicking what you wanna hear from the delirious ones aren't getting anywhere.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Ok but cherrypicking what you wanna hear from the delirious ones aren't getting anywhere.


Its not cherry picking, its trying to find what is fair.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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I’m hoping it doesn’t happen so Ottawa can end up with Byfield


I think LA will take Byfield and trade Alex Turcotte for a D prospect. I don't see Rob Blake of all people turning down an 18yr old C with Byfield's skill and ridiculous size
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
Its not cherry picking, its trying to find what is fair.


Nothing is fair. It's unrealistic.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I think LA will take Byfield and trade Alex Turcotte for a D prospect. I don't see Rob Blake of all people turning down an 18yr old C with Byfield's skill and ridiculous size


I think Stutzle and Byfield are equal but drafting Stutzle would create uncertainty at 1C and likely force us to take Rossi with him. Byfield would allow us to take Raymond, Drysdale or Perfetti at 5
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Nothing is fair. It's unrealistic.


It is not unrealistic to think the Rangers would consider moving down 1 pick to get Byfield when they desperately need a solid 2C when they have Kreider and Panarin at LW long term. That is what is funny about your argument.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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It is not unrealistic to think the Rangers would consider moving down 1 pick to get Byfield when they desperately need a solid 2C when they have Kreider and Panarin at LW long term. That is what is funny about your argument.


They would trade Kreider. Not give a team that took a cup from us a franchise talent. We'll figure out the C issues but not at the cost of Lafreniere.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I think LA will take Byfield and trade Alex Turcotte for a D prospect. I don't see Rob Blake of all people turning down an 18yr old C with Byfield's skill and ridiculous size


If LA takes Byfield, Turcotte will be transitioned to LW. He won't be traded. The Kings don't have enough top-tier forward talent in the system to allow them to trade offload a top tier prospect.

It's hard to say who they will take. I think they should take Byfield, but I'm not sure what the Kings are thinking. If you asked me last month, I would have said they were leaning towards Stutzle. Things I have read recently suggest that they are leaning towards Byfield again.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
They would trade Kreider. Not give a team that took a cup from us a franchise talent. We'll figure out the C issues but not at the cost of Lafreniere.


Doesn't Kreider have a full NMC? Pretty sure clauses and bonuses kicked in on July 1.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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Doesn't Kreider have a full NMC? Pretty sure clauses and bonuses kicked in on July 1.


It hasn't kicked in yet and they may move him. We can't trade Lafreniere. I can't stress it enough.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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It is not unrealistic to think the Rangers would consider moving down 1 pick to get Byfield when they desperately need a solid 2C when they have Kreider and Panarin at LW long term. That is what is funny about your argument.


Dude you cannot be serious in your line of thinking. Trade away a franchise player because you already have ...Chris Kreider at LW, making $6.5M/yr?!?! Kreider is being traded. 100%
Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
If it doesn't matter what the CF users say, doesn't that include you too?

It's not unrealistic to think the Rangers would consider trading down 1 pick for Byfield while getting good assets as well especially when Byfield is superstar caliber too and plays a position they desperately need. They are deep at LW. This is not farfetched thinking...

Lafreniere is not a generational talent which makes it easier to consider moving down 1 pick.


Absolutely that includes me. But Lafrienere is by far BPA and imo best prospect since McDavid. Drafting at 1OA for need over BPAis how you end up like BUF. But that’s my opinion, you’re not really telling me you believe the difference between Byfield and Laffy is so small NYR would actually trade 1OA?
Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Dude you cannot be serious in your line of thinking. Trade away a franchise player because you already have ...Chris Kreider at LW, making $6.5M/yr?!?! Kreider is being traded. 100%


Dont twist my words. They just resigned him. It is trading a future franchise player for a future franchise player plus a first, 2, and another 2nd in Kupari, Grundstrom, and Madden.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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Absolutely that includes me. But Lafrienere is by far BPA and imo best prospect since McDavid. Drafting at 1OA for need over BPAis how you end up like BUF. But that’s my opinion, you’re not really telling me you believe the difference between Byfield and Laffy is so small NYR would actually trade 1OA?


McDavid is a generational player. Lafreniere is not. There is no caliber comparison yet.
Aug. 12, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
McDavid is a generational player. Lafreniere is not. There is no caliber comparison yet.


Did I say that? No I said best draft prospect since McDavid. Who made a comparison to McDavid? I was making comparison between Byfield and Lafrienere.
 
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