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Kyrou Cernak

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2020
Published: Aug. 13, 2020
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:47 p.m.
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You’re not getting a 2nd for Holl
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:47 p.m.
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@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood did this with you in mind.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
You’re not getting a 2nd for Holl


That’s fine
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.
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@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood did this with you in mind.


Honestly I need to watch more Cernak but I am totally fine moving Kap. I do think the Leafs are going to look at bringing in some guys that crash the net. That is one are they do lack the will to do it seems.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:56 p.m.
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Honestly I need to watch more Cernak but I am totally fine moving Kap. I do think the Leafs are going to look at bringing in some guys that crash the net. That is one are they do lack the will to do it seems.


I just added Cernak for ****s and giggles. Moved Holl to upgrade him to cernak. Cernak is very good defensively. Average in transition and not much of an offensive threat. Better than Holl in all three aspects.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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I just added Cernak for ****s and giggles. Moved Holl to upgrade him to cernak. Cernak is very good defensively. Average in transition and not much of an offensive threat. Better than Holl in all three aspects.


He's definitely an it player on this site which generally means he's massively overrated but I need to see more of him.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.
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He's definitely an it player on this site which generally means he's massively overrated but I need to see more of him.


Lol... that’s just because of Tampa’s cap situation.

I guess I would compare him to Phillips myers... but more violent.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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Lol... that’s just because of Tampa’s cap situation.

I guess I would compare him to Phillips myers... but more violent.


Myers is my dream acquisition. He would be perfect with Rielly. Although I also still think Liljegren by age 24 is going to be so deceptively good. I still think he could be the long term answer on the Blueline along with Sandin. I am really looking forward to seeing what the young guys and Lehtonen can do next season. Especially with a full training camp and season under Keefe. I think they proved they are more committed to the system than at any point in the last couple of seasons. Some more time and tweaking and they may surprise people. With all that said, the defence does need more depth. Replacing Ceci and Barrie with NHL quality players is paramount
Aug. 13, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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I like Kappy quite a bit, more than the average fan outside of Toronto. Idk how we’d make it work cap-wise though.
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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I like Kappy quite a bit, more than the average fan outside of Toronto. Idk how we’d make it work cap-wise though.


Well, bozak has one foot out the door. I haven’t tried it the other way though. Was talking to @A_K and he had the same thoughts/concerns.
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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Well, bozak has one foot out the door. I haven’t tried it the other way though. Was talking to @A_K and he had the same thoughts/concerns.


If Pietrangelo goes it might make sense, I could also see the Blues trying get something really good by packaging Kyrou with a first somewhere.

Wouldn’t shock me if GMDA pushes hard for Nylander if he really does become available. He’s been interested in the past.

Also wouldn’t shock me if Dubas is interested in Blais or Barbashev considering that they’re legit players who also bring “Grit” or whatever.
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Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:21 a.m.
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Why would the Blues do this? I mean, really.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 7:20 a.m.
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Why would the Blues do this? I mean, really.

Trading a player that has struggled to find a fit. You get a sure thing in Kapanen.

What is the issue?
Aug. 14, 2020 at 7:45 a.m.
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Trading a player that has struggled to find a fit. You get a sure thing in Kapanen.

What is the issue?



It's obviously been explained countless times, but we're not adding cap space on players we don't need. Beyond that, Kyrou has a far higher ceiling and gosh lots of young players take time to find the ice for championship teams. This is nothing new or greatly concerning. Meanwhile, calling Kapanen a sure thing, like... of what? This is all Toronto win, Blues lose.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.
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It's obviously been explained countless times, but we're not adding cap space on players we don't need. Beyond that, Kyrou has a far higher ceiling and gosh lots of young players take time to find the ice for championship teams. This is nothing new or greatly concerning. Meanwhile, calling Kapanen a sure thing, like... of what? This is all Toronto win, Blues lose.


Why does Kyrou have such a higher ceiling? Kappy is a solid fast nhler with a good defensive side and pk skills and is only 2 years older than Kyrou. And yes I have gone over this with other blues fans.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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Why does Kyrou have such a higher ceiling? Kappy is a solid fast nhler with a good defensive side and pk skills and is only 2 years older than Kyrou. And yes I have gone over this with other blues fans.



Yeah, Kappy is a solid NHL youngster who projects as a solid 2nd liner. Kyrou projects as a 1st liner, potential all-star level player. It's not a secret or anything controversial. Most any scouting service or pundit says this.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.
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Yeah, Kappy is a solid NHL youngster who projects as a solid 2nd liner. Kyrou projects as a 1st liner, potential all-star level player. It's not a secret or anything controversial. Most any scouting service or pundit says this.


Similar numbers in ahl and kappy was a 1st round pick. I think you are a bit high on kyrou’s projection. I have not heard anyone saying this. Usually elite talent like that develops very quick.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 11:14 a.m.
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Similar numbers in ahl and kappy was a 1st round pick. I think you are a bit high on kyrou’s projection. I have not heard anyone saying this.

Usually elite talent like that develops very quick.


1- If you've not heard it, you're not listening. It's not exactly an edgelord hot take. Here's just one prospect from late 2019 that easily exceeds the same guy's previous book on Kappy:

"Kyrou had an excellent season, as one of the best players in the AHL as a 20-year-old. His success didn’t translate right away to the NHL, but I’m confident it will shortly. Kyrou is a dynamic player. He has the speed, skill and offensive intelligence to break open a shift. He has the high-end speed to skate with some of the faster NHL forwards. When you couple his speed with his very quick hands, he can generate controlled zone entries at a high rate in the NHL. He’s not all about the speed and dangles, as Kyrou is an excellent passer who makes difficult plays consistently. Kyrou has never been a highly physical player, but what I liked last season is that he was consistent in his effort level, even earning some penalty kill time." - Corey Pronman

Around the same time, Scott Wheeler had Kyrou on par with or higher than guys like Caufield, Zegras, Suzuki, Necas, Dach and Newhook.


2- What now? Citation, please.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 11:26 a.m.
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1- If you've not heard it, you're not listening. It's not exactly an edgelord hot take. Here's just one prospect from late 2019 that easily exceeds the same guy's previous book on Kappy:

"Kyrou had an excellent season, as one of the best players in the AHL as a 20-year-old. His success didn’t translate right away to the NHL, but I’m confident it will shortly. Kyrou is a dynamic player. He has the speed, skill and offensive intelligence to break open a shift. He has the high-end speed to skate with some of the faster NHL forwards. When you couple his speed with his very quick hands, he can generate controlled zone entries at a high rate in the NHL. He’s not all about the speed and dangles, as Kyrou is an excellent passer who makes difficult plays consistently. Kyrou has never been a highly physical player, but what I liked last season is that he was consistent in his effort level, even earning some penalty kill time." - Corey Pronman

Around the same time, Scott Wheeler had Kyrou on par with or higher than guys like Caufield, Zegras, Suzuki, Necas, Dach and Newhook.


2- What now? Citation, please.


Citation needed by you, nothing in there saying he will be a top line star player. I don’t really care where wheeler had him, clearly a guy like necas is a mile ahead of him.

He is a player with potential. I could see him as a 40-50 point guy in the future.

I think you are mistaking projection for potential. I am also not impressed with Pronman’s opinion either. You act as if it is proof of something.

I’ve watched Kyrou play from junior to ahl to a hand full of games in the nhl. I am perfectly fine forming my own opinions.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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Citation needed by you, nothing in there saying he will be a top line star player.

I don’t really care where wheeler had him, clearly a guy like necas is a mile ahead of him.

He is a player with potential. I could see him as a 40-50 point guy in the future.

I’ve watched Kyrou play from junior to ahl to a hand full of games in the nhl. I am perfectly fine forming my own opinions.



1- It was just quick examples, I don;t care enough to spend time making a comprehensive portfolio for you.

EDIT: Actually the article lists Kyrou in the "High end" tier. That's the second highest tier, the same one inhabited by Necas, Dach and the others. So if they're "first line prospects" then he is as well in this scouting guy's eyes. Most other ratings have a similar opinion. There is a general consensus on this.

2- Necas also had an easier team to break into, one that more urgently needed him to produce. His promotion trajectory reflects that. I;m not saying Kyrou will be better, but Necas definitely had a head start gaining NHL experience for reason that had nothing to do with actual skill level or promise.

3- 40-50? You're funny.

4- And yet, you imagined the Blues would do this trade. tears of joy
Aug. 14, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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1- It was just quick examples, I don;t care enough to spend time making a comprehensive portfolio for you.

EDIT: Actually the article lists Kyrou in the "High end" tier. That's the second highest tier, the same one inhabited by Necas, Dach and the others. So if they're "first line prospects" then he is as well in this scouting guy's eyes. Most other ratings have a similar opinion. There is a general consensus on this.

2- Necas also had an easier team to break into, one that more urgently needed him to produce. His promotion trajectory reflects that. I;m not saying Kyrou will be better, but Necas definitely had a head start gaining NHL experience for reason that had nothing to do with actual skill level or promise.

3- 40-50? You're funny.

4- And yet, you imagined the Blues would do this trade. tears of joy


@A_K @STLBlues17 I’m assuming the value in’t as bad as this guy claims. I get liking your prospects and Kyrou is a good player but I would say his landing spot is most likely 40-50 point winger with smaller chances of being higher or lower.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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@A_K @STLBlues17 I’m assuming the value in’t as bad as this guy claims. I get liking your prospects and Kyrou is a good player but I would say his landing spot is most likely 40-50 point winger with smaller chances of being higher or lower.


It's a complicated situation. Kyrou has no-doubt NHL talent - his release is sharp, his skating is elite, his production in lower leagues is inspiring - but so far in the NHL he hasn't been very confident in himself. He can be a bit of a floater and Berube has kept his leash too short to really get the most out of his creativity. I guess my take is this... if the Blues give up on Kyrou, I think Kapanen would be a good return. But I hope they don't give up on him because if they embrace the type of player that he is (and take some of the bad with the good), he could be a staple in the top six for a long time.
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