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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 14, 2020
Published: Aug. 14, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just look at the values of the trades
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Mete, Victor
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
6x6
2.
MTL
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Neal, James
  3. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
The first is added because of the terrible contract of M.Neal
EDM
  1. Poehling, Ryan
  2. Tatar, Tomas ($2,000,000 retained)
3.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
4 OA
DET
  1. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
14 and 15 OA

Jordan Harris
4.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
2 OA

They can draft Drysdale with the 4th pick while adding a guy like Quinn, Jarvis or Schneider at 16.
LAK
  1. Brook, Josh
  2. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2020 1st round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
4 and 16 OA

Josh Brook can be replaced with Juulsen if wanted (I know some LA fans like him)
5.
MTL
  1. Staal, Marc
  2. 2020 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. 2020 1st round pick (LAK)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the CHI
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Logo of the STL
Logo of the VGK
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Logo of the PHI
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$81,133,809$0$495,000$366,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$5,700,000$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2

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Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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Am Yisrael Chai
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no
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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DET trade : Happens if they're really high on Askarov and know that he wont be taken in the top 12.

LA trade : Theyre one of the most stacked teams in terms of offensive prospects. With the 4th pick, theyll pick Drysdale and add another solid prospect with the mid first. Brook is a solid RHD prospect with great offensive potential.

NYR trade : Laf for Byfield, Broberg and an unprotected 2021 first. They get their so wanted franchise C, their top 4 LHD (would look amazing next to Lundkvist in a near futur) and another first that might be top 10 (who knows).
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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Detroit doesn’t touch that trade. 14 + 15 probably gets you around 8-10 range. A top 5 pick hasn’t willing been moved since 2008.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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ok that was mental Gymnastics.

EDM says no. they are thiiiiinnnn on D and ever thinner on D prospects. I don't think they can afford to move either Bouchard nor Broberg at this point. especially if no D prospect is coming back.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Herms17
ok that was mental Gymnastics.

EDM says no. they are thiiiiinnnn on D and ever thinner on D prospects. I don't think they can afford to move either Bouchard nor Broberg at this point. especially if no D prospect is coming back.


I can replace Poehling with Fleury
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Detroit declines, replace Harris with primeau and poehling then you got a deal
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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I can replace Poehling with Fleury


probably not enough still.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Herms17
probably not enough still.


But I think youre underrestimating the negative value of Neal here...
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: buffbry
Detroit declines, replace Harris with primeau and poehling then you got a deal


Dont forget that this trade happens if and only if Yzerman wants Askarov and knows he wont be taken in the top 12-14... Getting the player you like while adding another first and a solid prospect is sure great.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
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Dont forget that this trade happens if and only if Yzerman wants Askarov and knows he wont be taken in the top 12-14... Getting the player you like while adding another first and a solid prospect is sure great.

How does Yzerman know the other team’s boards? Value wise it’s a weak offer. 14 + 15 + next year or 2022 first for 4OA.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Eclipze
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What would make those EDM and DET trades more fair in your opinion?

Imo, the negative value of that Neal contract is worth the first alone. Then Tatar (top 6 winger) and Poehling (a young 3C in the making) are worth Broberg. I forgot to mention it but Tatar would come with an extension of course.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:30 p.m.
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How does Yzerman know the other team’s boards? Value wise it’s a weak offer. 14 + 15 + next year or 2022 first for 4OA.


Well, its easy to know what a team might be looking for especially with a goalie on the board. Outside of the top 8, MIN would take a C (Lundell), FLO are set in net, NAS have Saros, WPG have one of the best goalies in the world and CAR have like 6 great goalie prospects
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
no


But seriously, this is more than enough man.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
But seriously, this is more than enough man.


Respectfully, I could care less on that value.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Respectfully, I could care less on that value.


Whats the point of having 146573 elite wingers with only one decent C to play with them? I guess we'll see what Gorton will do
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
Dont forget that this trade happens if and only if Yzerman wants Askarov and knows he wont be taken in the top 12-14... Getting the player you like while adding another first and a solid prospect is sure great.


Like I said 14+15+primeau+poehling gets you 4, otherwise rather keep the pick a
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
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Whats the point of having 146573 elite wingers with only one decent C to play with them? I guess we'll see what Gorton will do


Offer Sheet to Cirelli or Barzal and trading Kreider.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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Well, its easy to know what a team might be looking for especially with a goalie on the board. Outside of the top 8, MIN would take a C (Lundell), FLO are set in net, NAS have Saros, WPG have one of the best goalies in the world and CAR have like 6 great goalie prospects

Might be interested in and pulling the trigger are two completely different things otherwise hockey analyst would have more accurate mock drafts. How many can say they saw Yzerman go for Seider last year? How many had Turcotte going to Chicago? How many saw Montreal take KK or Arizona with Hayton? If Yzerman views Askarov as a franchise goalie then he will just take him at 4, why risk it over a middle first? If he is that high on him he’d just pull the trigger like he did with Seider.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
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only on Detroit trade MTL need to add a little , the other trade the value is there
Aug. 14, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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But I think youre underrestimating the negative value of Neal here...


i Dont think it has anything to do with the negative value of Neal and all to do with the Oilers back end
Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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what about lavoie over broberg?
Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: ken_holland
what about lavoie over broberg?


Not with Neal included.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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Not with Neal included.


Counter offer:
Lavoie
Russell
2021 1st

for

Tatar (2M retained)
Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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Counter offer:
Lavoie
Russell
2021 1st

for

Tatar (2M retained)


No it has to be 15 OA. Another team will offer
more then... Saw a CAR fan offering 13 OA and Bean sooner
 
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