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Please put Sam back at center

Created by: Sabres923
Initial Creation Date: Aug 14, 2020
Published: Aug 14, 2020 at 4:51
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Reinhart, Sam5$6,900,000
Ullmark, Linus2$2,995,995
Kahun, Dominik2$2,900,000
Olofsson, Victor4$4,600,000
Thompson, Tage2$874,125
Mittelstadt, Casey2$874,125
Lazar, Curtis2$815,000
Athanasiou, Andreas2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fast, Jesper2$2,995,995
Nelson, Casey1$725,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas [RFA Rights]
  2. Russell, Kris ($900,000 retained)
EDM
  1. Montour, Brandon [RFA Rights]
BUF
    EDM
    1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
    Additional Details:
    Picks and prospects any team that wants him.
    Buyouts
    • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
    • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
    • Taylor Hall: $4,000,000 (50%)
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    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    DAL
    2021
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,738,615$1,487,500$4,337,500$761,385
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    $9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    BUF
    Kahun, Dominik
    $2,900,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Olofsson, Victor
    $4,600,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Reinhart, Sam
    $6,900,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Fast, Jesper
    $2,995,995
    RW
    UFA - 3
    BUF
    Johansson, Marcus
    $4,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
    Athanasiou, Andreas
    $3,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Asplund, Rasmus
    $845,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Lazar, Curtis
    $815,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Miller, Colin
    $3,875,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Ullmark, Linus
    $2,995,995
    G
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    McCabe, Jake
    $2,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Hutton, Carter
    $2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    $3,100,000
    LD/RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Borgen, William
    $864,166
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    BUF
    Nelson, Casey
    $725,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Thompson, Tage
    $874,125
    C, RW
    RFA - 3

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    Aug 14, 2020 at 4:53
    #1
    Not JoshAnderson17
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    ... until Cozens is ready. Or Mitts.
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    Aug 14, 2020 at 4:53
    #2
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    i thought he was bad there
    Aug 14, 2020 at 4:55
    #3
    Shibbal18
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    Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
    i thought he was bad there


    He was, also we have no realistic view of his production away from Eichel
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    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:01
    #4
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    He was, also we have no realistic view of his production away from Eichel


    That’s not true. https://www.expectedbuffalo.com/buffalo-sabres-myth-busting-sam-reinhart-cant-produce-without-jack-eichel/
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:04
    #5
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    No thanks from Edmonton.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:06
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    i thought he played with eichal all the time, but his defense good enough?
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:09
    #7
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    Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
    i thought he played with eichal all the time, but his defense good enough?


    He usually does but it’s proven he can play without Jack. Skinner needs Eichel more than Reinhart.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:13
    #8
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    He usually does but it’s proven he can play without Jack. Skinner needs Eichel more than Reinhart.


    is that why his production dropped so much?, cause he wasnt playing with eichal?
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:13
    #9
    burn the pegulas
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    if samson ends up getting a FAT contract then he’s playing with jack. the sabres aren’t going to risk having another big contract bust like skinner.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:14
    #10
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    Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
    is that why his production dropped so much?, cause he wasnt playing with eichal?

    Yeah he played with Sobotka, Lazar, Frolik, Sheary not the best line mates.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:18
    #11
    Shibbal18
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    Edited Aug 14, 2020 at 5:26

    Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
    i thought he played with eichal all the time, but his defense good enough?


    Thats a cool chart until we look at the his numbers. specifically for 19-20 because its easiest to access. Per your article, away from Eichel, Reinhart had 2.34 points per 60 minutes away from Eichel 5v5. Reinhart had 2 points away from Eichel 5v5 last year: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/Sam-Reinhart. That means he played less than 60 minutes away from Eichel, that data should be completely invalidated but is left in there because it best proves his narrative. 18-19: His best producing season - 1.75 PP60 away from Eichel - 9 points total away from Eichel, which meant he spent a lot more time without him, but again the numbers are skewed due to an overwhelming amount of TOI with Eichel. 2017-18 is the only decent metric we have, and Reinhart scored 24 points away from Eichel out of his 50, but the majority of those points came with ROR. So as I said, we have no realistic view of his production away from Eichel and we have nothing that says Reinhart can carry a line.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 5:20
    #12
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    Quoting: chloewoj
    if samson ends up getting a FAT contract then he’s playing with jack. the sabres aren’t going to risk having another big contract bust like skinner.

    You put Sam at center at the start than you can transition him back to the wing until Cozens or Mittlestadt are ready to take his spot.
    Aug 14, 2020 at 6:51
    #13
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    Deal!
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    Aug 14, 2020 at 7:31
    #14
    Oilers GM
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    Yes from Edmonton
    Aug 14, 2020 at 7:33
    #15
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    Quoting: ken_holland
    Yes from Edmonton


    Out of curiosity did Athanasiou play any center in his short time in Edmonton?
    Aug 14, 2020 at 7:37
    #16
    Oilers GM
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Out of curiosity did Athanasiou play any center in his short time in Edmonton?


    No, because we have a ton of centers. He had a grand total of 1 faceoff taken in 9 games. And much better suited as a winger because of his speed.
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