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The rebuild version 1

Created by: Jacketsman61
Team: 2017-18 Columbus Blue Jackets
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2016
Published: Sep. 8, 2016
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Karlsson goes to Las Vegas in the Expansion draft
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Sissons, Colton
  2. 2018 4th round pick (NSH)
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Conditional 3rd round 2018. Nashville must get to the cup finals. Otherwise it reverts to a 2019 4th round pick.
NSH
  1. Hartnell, Scott
  2. 2018 7th round pick (CBJ)
2.
CBJ
  1. 2018 4th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (CGY)
3.
CBJ
Buyouts
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2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$73,000,000$61,436,794$0$4,065,000$11,563,206
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
UFA - 6
$655,833$655,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000
RW
RFA
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
$7,425,000$7,425,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
$2,825,000$2,825,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,062,500$1,062,500
RD
UFA - 4
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
$1,575,000$1,575,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1

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Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:24 p.m.
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I wish
Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:31 p.m.
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This is bad. Just bad.
Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:43 p.m.
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smalley41 what would you do different? Just asking
Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:51 p.m.
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"Cool, new Jacketsman61 AGM,. Lets see who he's trying to offload today"

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" The rebuild version 1? Okay let's see what this is all about."

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"Nice trade! looks like Jacketsman61 might be starting to come to the realization that this is the kind of deal you can expect for Hartnell. Okay whats next?"

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"Ok, ok, this can work. Not too over the top. I don't think Calgary is the right trading partner but who cares the value is about right. Geez, Jacketsman61 is on fire. Nothing but realistic trades that help both teams equally."

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"................and there he goes.................... Glad to see he's come full circle again. Who else am I going to argue with about Columbus teams?"

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Writes "2 for 3 buddy. Problem is that last one is just vomit inducing. The rest are very reasonable"
Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:58 p.m.
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Dat last trade doeeeeeeeee
Sep. 8, 2016 at 11:07 p.m.
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The Caps trade does have some underlying positives for both teams. The Caps may not be getting maximum return for Ovechkin but they do receive some nice pieces and cap relief. After this season the Caps will have to make some choices. Not saying this is a great deal because it is not, but options are limited based on the cap.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 1:00 a.m.
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Just delete the trade. It's just embarrassing. For both teams it just doesn't do much. Ovechkin stays and will always stay.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 7:10 a.m.
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Just delete the trade. It's just embarrassing. For both teams it just doesn't do much. Ovechkin stays and will always stay.[/quote

I disagree. Personally I don't like the trade, and I don't think CBJ would ever make this trade. But Caps have been trying with Ovi for over 10 years now and are nowhere close when it comes to the playoffs. Major playoff fail. Usually the coach or support players take the fall.
Well I got news for you, Ovi isn't getting any younger. They have some very dynamic stars coming up like Kutznetzov & Johanssen. I could see Washington making a trade to some team down the road. It happens all the time. It is part of the economics of the business. Not out of the question.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 9:45 a.m.
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You bash the trade before you do the research. Check the cap situation next summer. Then check who needs contracts. Then you will see a huge glaring problem. It is impossible to keep that team together as currently constructed. And yes, Ovechkin only has a modified NTC. If they fail to win the cup this upcoming season they might be forced to trade him.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 11:07 a.m.
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Guys, Ovechkin will never be traded. (Maybe if things really go sour but that doesn't look like it will happen) They will move any other player on the roster to make space if necessary. He is a money maker for the organization regardless of the playoff success. Ovechkin is a Washington brand now. Some players when reaching a certain status become bigger than the game itself. He's in the conversation for the best goalscorer of all time. Not by the literal amount of goals he's scored in his career but by the amount he's been able to score in an era when 20 goals is considered amazing. Saying you have Ovechkin is worth more than trading him for other lesser assets.

Some guys are untradeable. Not because they are crappy players with bloated contracts like a Clarkson but because they are invaluable. There's nothing a sane team could offer that would be enough for Washington to consider it. Sure a package of McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse and the next 4 1st rounder for Edmonton would get it done but Edmonton would never do this.

Since this is fantasy you can at least offer fair value and see where the conversation goes from there for fun but your offering 3 players that we know as non-Jackets fans, you would love to move. Your not fooling anyone. Dubinsky is a decent player still but he's still overpaid. Foligno also. Johnson is a solid dman but he's clearly on your list of trying to trade before the expansion draft. The 1st round picks negate each other pretty much.

Its not that your trading for Ovechkin that its blasphemous, because he will more than likely never be traded and will remain a Capital forever, its the fact that in your head you have the audacity to say that the package your offering might actually get it done. If we're going to live in fantasy land, the least we can do is be honest with it. Any trade for Ovechkin will involve names like Dubois, Jones, Murray, Jenner, Saad, Werenski, etc. (Not all of them)

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You bash the trade before you do the research. Check the cap situation next summer. Then check who needs contracts. Then you will see a huge glaring problem. It is impossible to keep that team together as currently constructed. And yes, Ovechkin only has a modified NTC. If they fail to win the cup this upcoming season they might be forced to trade him.


How is that the decision they'd be forced to make? Why not move players like Johansson, buyout Orpik, etc, etc? Wouldn't that make more sense then trading one of the best goal scorers in the history of the NHL? You mention doing research but i don't think you did yours either. They are fine. They have a bunch of players with great value that they can move at any time they want. Not to mention players with expiring contracts. You know what they can do? Just not resign them! What are they going to do realistically? Trade Ovechkin and resign Oshie and Williams or keep Ovechkin and let both those guys go to free agency?

They have plenty of options.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 11:15 a.m.
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All of the things F50marco said. Ovi goes nowhere, unless it's a Subban-Weber type blockbuster, and even then I doubt it.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 11:44 a.m.
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Guys, Ovechkin will never be traded. (Maybe if things really go sour but that doesn't look like it will happen) They will move any other player on the roster to make space if necessary. He is a money maker for the organization regardless of the playoff success. Ovechkin is a Washington brand now. Some players when reaching a certain status become bigger than the game itself. He's in the conversation for the best goalscorer of all time. Not by the literal amount of goals he's scored in his career but by the amount he's been able to score in an era when 20 goals is considered amazing. Saying you have Ovechkin is worth more than trading him for other lesser assets.

Some guys are untradeable. Not because they are crappy players with bloated contracts like a Clarkson but because they are invaluable. There's nothing a sane team could offer that would be enough for Washington to consider it. Sure a package of McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse and the next 4 1st rounder for Edmonton would get it done but Edmonton would never do this.

Since this is fantasy you can at least offer fair value and see where the conversation goes from there for fun but your offering 3 players that we know as non-Jackets fans, you would love to move. Your not fooling anyone. Dubinsky is a decent player still but he's still overpaid. Foligno also. Johnson is a solid dman but he's clearly on your list of trying to trade before the expansion draft. The 1st round picks negate each other pretty much.

Its not that your trading for Ovechkin that its blasphemous, because he will more than likely never be traded and will remain a Capital forever, its the fact that in your head you have the audacity to say that the package your offering might actually get it done. If we're going to live in fantasy land, the least we can do is be honest with it. Any trade for Ovechkin will involve names like Dubois, Jones, Murray, Jenner, Saad, Werenski, etc. (Not all of them)

Quoting: Jacketsman61
You bash the trade before you do the research. Check the cap situation next summer. Then check who needs contracts. Then you will see a huge glaring problem. It is impossible to keep that team together as currently constructed. And yes, Ovechkin only has a modified NTC. If they fail to win the cup this upcoming season they might be forced to trade him.


How is that the decision they'd be forced to make? Why not move players like Johansson, buyout Orpik, etc, etc? Wouldn't that make more sense then trading one of the best goal scorers in the history of the NHL? You mention doing research but i don't think you did yours either. They are fine. They have a bunch of players with great value that they can move at any time they want. Not to mention players with expiring contracts. You know what they can do? Just not resign them! What are they going to do realistically? Trade Ovechkin and resign Oshie and Williams or keep Ovechkin and let both those guys go to free agency?

They have plenty of options.


Buying out players only works if all other options fail. Here some knowledge for you, here are a list of players who are paid 9 mil or more a season. Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Toews, P. Kane, and Kopitar. Now stay with me here, of this list, Ovechkin is the only one who has not won a cup. Hasn't even made the cup finals. Every player on this list, excluding Ovechkin, have won multiple Cups. Invaluable? You obviously have no idea what word means.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Jacketsman61
Quoting: F50marco
Guys, Ovechkin will never be traded. (Maybe if things really go sour but that doesn't look like it will happen) They will move any other player on the roster to make space if necessary. He is a money maker for the organization regardless of the playoff success. Ovechkin is a Washington brand now. Some players when reaching a certain status become bigger than the game itself. He's in the conversation for the best goalscorer of all time. Not by the literal amount of goals he's scored in his career but by the amount he's been able to score in an era when 20 goals is considered amazing. Saying you have Ovechkin is worth more than trading him for other lesser assets.

Some guys are untradeable. Not because they are crappy players with bloated contracts like a Clarkson but because they are invaluable. There's nothing a sane team could offer that would be enough for Washington to consider it. Sure a package of McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse and the next 4 1st rounder for Edmonton would get it done but Edmonton would never do this.

Since this is fantasy you can at least offer fair value and see where the conversation goes from there for fun but your offering 3 players that we know as non-Jackets fans, you would love to move. Your not fooling anyone. Dubinsky is a decent player still but he's still overpaid. Foligno also. Johnson is a solid dman but he's clearly on your list of trying to trade before the expansion draft. The 1st round picks negate each other pretty much.

Its not that your trading for Ovechkin that its blasphemous, because he will more than likely never be traded and will remain a Capital forever, its the fact that in your head you have the audacity to say that the package your offering might actually get it done. If we're going to live in fantasy land, the least we can do is be honest with it. Any trade for Ovechkin will involve names like Dubois, Jones, Murray, Jenner, Saad, Werenski, etc. (Not all of them)

Quoting: Jacketsman61
You bash the trade before you do the research. Check the cap situation next summer. Then check who needs contracts. Then you will see a huge glaring problem. It is impossible to keep that team together as currently constructed. And yes, Ovechkin only has a modified NTC. If they fail to win the cup this upcoming season they might be forced to trade him.


How is that the decision they'd be forced to make? Why not move players like Johansson, buyout Orpik, etc, etc? Wouldn't that make more sense then trading one of the best goal scorers in the history of the NHL? You mention doing research but i don't think you did yours either. They are fine. They have a bunch of players with great value that they can move at any time they want. Not to mention players with expiring contracts. You know what they can do? Just not resign them! What are they going to do realistically? Trade Ovechkin and resign Oshie and Williams or keep Ovechkin and let both those guys go to free agency?

They have plenty of options.


Buying out players only works if all other options fail. Here some knowledge for you, here are a list of players who are paid 9 mil or more a season. Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Toews, P. Kane, and Kopitar. Now stay with me here, of this list, Ovechkin is the only one who has not won a cup. Hasn't even made the cup finals. Every player on this list, excluding Ovechkin, have won multiple Cups. Invaluable? You obviously have no idea what word means.


Hahaahahahhahahah that's your stance??? Marcel Dionne, Lafontaine, Hawerchuck, Oates. Any of these names ring a bell? McDavid may never win a cup and he will more then likely be getting Ovechkin money in the next couple years. I love debating with you Jacketsman61. You make some of the least knowledgeable comments I've ever seen and you say them so confidently like your trying to convince a 14 year old who will cower at anyone with a confident position.

I won't bother retorting. It'll only go in one ear and out the other.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 2:21 p.m.
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Yea this is just not good. Granted none of your other trades are very good at all but this one is just purely awful. Delete your account worthy? Maybe.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 2:21 p.m.
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You used McDavid? McDavid is still very young, his best years are in front of him. You can't say the same about Ovechkin. If the cap goes down, the Capitals are screwed. Yeah, the guys you list may not have won cups but they did have their chance. Abd those players are irrelevant to this situation because there was no cap then. There is now. In the cap era the teams that are most successful are the ones who manage the cap responsibly.
Sep. 9, 2016 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Jacketsman61
You used McDavid? McDavid is still very young, his best years are in front of him. You can't say the same about Ovechkin. If the cap goes down, the Capitals are screwed. Yeah, the guys you list may not have won cups but they did have their chance. Abd those players are irrelevant to this situation because there was no cap then. There is now. In the cap era the teams that are most successful are the ones who manage the cap responsibly.


I simply used McDavid because one day he may be in the same situation Ovechkin is in and nobody will be talking about how Edmonton will be forced to trade him for less than quality in return. That's all.

I simply used those other guys to show you that not every great player wins a cup but that doesn't mean they weren't invaluable. That's all.

Please, make an AGM where Washington is screwed in the next couple years. I need to see what you are seeing because Alwaysnextyear made one and it pretty much debunked your theory.

The most successful teams are the ones who actually win the cup. Something even teams that are responsible don't necessarily do. Whats your point?

What are we even arguing anymore? Your trade is horrendous, that is the point. Its not whether Ovechkin is this or that.

Btw all the points you" think" your making are counter points for why Columbus should NOT be making this trade.
 
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