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Its either Maurice or Laine

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Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2020
Published: Aug. 17, 2020
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It may be time to part with Laine. I think his production is being stifled by PoMo. Wondering what teams would be willing to pay for him. Peg needs a #2 centre and a top 4 RHD. I get we wouldn’t get both in one trade but just testing the waters on what people would be willing to give up for Laine. He’s a pretty polarizing player but has rounded out his game quite nicely from being only a PP specialist and is looking more like a goal scoring power forward.
I am looking for (pure) hockey trades, not quantity for quality trades. No 4 quarters for a dollar although I understand the addition of add ons to balance the trade out. Current NHL players or almost ready prospects are acceptable as are 1st rounders this year. Please, no Ryan Getzlafs or Shea Weber’s, preferably same age within reason. And be kind, first post.
Offer away.
Oh, and I would much rather get rid of Maurice, but Chevy would never let that happen
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Yeah i don’t know, I’ve always loved Laine


I like laine too, but he’ll make a bunch of money to not always show up or make people around him better. Perfetti and Rossi do that plus Rossi is good at both offence and defence
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
I like laine too, but he’ll make a bunch of money to not always show up or make people around him better. Perfetti and Rossi do that plus Rossi is good at both offence and defence


Yeah I live in Ottawa so I’ve seen Rossi. I love him. This is all fantasy tho. Honestly the only guy I’d trade 5th and maybe more for is Matthew Tkachuk. I can’t imagine having 2 Tkachuks and Byfield/Stutzle on this team
Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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Yeah I live in Ottawa so I’ve seen Rossi. I love him. This is all fantasy tho. Honestly the only guy I’d trade 5th and maybe more for is Matthew Tkachuk. I can’t imagine having 2 Tkachuks and Byfield/Stutzle on this team


Trade him instead of taking Rossi? You already have brady so it’s not like you really need Matthew. Or is this purely to unite the brothers
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Trade him instead of taking Rossi? You already have brady so it’s not like you really need Matthew. Or is this purely to unite the brothers


I want Tkachuk on line 1, Tkachuk on line 2 and Formenton on line 3. Goddamn
Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
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I've seen so many of these... This is insane.

The thought that a 21 year old player who scores 30 goals in his sleep is the problem is so backwards it's laughable. This is a player who has undeniable talent that's impossible to find, a player you build a team around. Patrik Laine has maintained his 5v5 production, while improving his 200 ft game.... There's no reason to think that won't continue. His PP production has declined, which has strangely enough coincided with the injuries and absence of Dustin Byfuglien at the point... Thier PP is so easy to defend, because it lacks a secondary shooting threat. Nobody is afraid of Neal Pionk's point shot, so the key in on Laine, and reduce his opportunities. It's so simple. Don't give me the "Ovechkin keeps scoring" b.s... Ovechkin has John Carlson back there absorbing a considerable amount of attention.

His 5v5 performance will improve with an upgraded 2C, and better point man on the PP. You don't try to fill lineup holes by creating other lineup holes... This team is already spinning its wheels, why would anyone think it makes any sense to take 30-40 goals off the team in an effort to make them better? It's completely backwards logic.

This offseason, they are a team with cap space, in a flat cap summer... now is the time to add, not subtract.

...

Oh, and Paul Maurice is 100% the problem.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Really? Rossi or perfetti are much better options than laine


Laine looked like he was gonna be a perennial 50G scorer after his second year. I disagree with that statement
Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Wonder if the Ducks would offer Henrique, Manson, and some set of prospects. Star Finnish winger in Anaheim after scoring like a demon in Winnipeg? Unheard of.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Laine looked like he was gonna be a perennial 50G scorer after his second year. I disagree with that statement


Looked and doing are 2 different things. I like laine but what has he proven? He’s lazy and doesn’t do anything for people around him. If he score back to back 50 goals and your still on this website, mention this to me and I’ll retract my statement, but until that happens I won’t
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.
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Looked and doing are 2 different things. I like laine but what has he proven? He’s lazy and doesn’t do anything for people around him. If he score back to back 50 goals and your still on this website, mention this to me and I’ll retract my statement, but until that happens I won’t


So many people harp on his all around game when it's drastically improved. He's not a liability on the ice, he's turning into a legit power forward that can score 30+ goals in his sleep.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Maurice needs to go, so sick of his 90s style of hockey, skilled players put with plugs, a 3rd line that does nothing but waste time and his favoritism he clearly shows for some guys while throwing shade at others, his treatment of Nic Petan was pretty terrible too!


Too bad they resigned Mo to a three year extension. I just shook my head when I heard that
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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So many people harp on his all around game when it's drastically improved. He's not a liability on the ice, he's turning into a legit power forward that can score 30+ goals in his sleep.


Power forward no, under 100 hits ain’t a pf. He’s good but just like max domi goes invisible for stretches of time. He also doesn’t make those around him better. He’s a weaker ovechkin who can’t hit. Now his defence is better than great 8 but he don’t hit and also doesn’t score 50 every year, maybe he will but he’s not there yet
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Looked and doing are 2 different things. I like laine but what has he proven? He’s lazy and doesn’t do anything for people around him. If he score back to back 50 goals and your still on this website, mention this to me and I’ll retract my statement, but until that happens I won’t


He still scores 30 goals with ease and he’s only 22. There is no way Jets sell him for anything less than an overpay. As many comments suggested, he’s a victim of Maurice’s system
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Name it from NYR


Not entirely sure what I would want from the Rangers. Would Kakko be a expendable with the addition of Laffy? I’m still not sold on him as he had a less than stellar rookie campaign.
Doubt Fox would be happy here and ADA I’m meh about. Zibs is probably off limits and I can’t imagine him wanting to resign here. Rangers may be bad trade partners.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
I like laine too, but he’ll make a bunch of money to not always show up or make people around him better. Perfetti and Rossi do that plus Rossi is good at both offence and defence

He will be a force. He’s made quite the strides the last year. He’s our best backchecker, went from a team worse plus minus to being one of the best and his assists went way up from the year before. He was quite consistent last year but you didn’t hear about it as he isn’t putting up those highlight real goals that you were seeing the years before. They will come back once he’s gotten his two way game refined.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
brodin boldy 9?


No need for a lefty d, we are flush with them. Dumba/9?
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:32 p.m.
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Quoting: RealHavocc
Laine for Howard and Nielsen ( ik Detroit is kinda overpaying but whatever)


Toss in Dekeyser?
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: smrtguy90
I've seen so many of these... This is insane.

The thought that a 21 year old player who scores 30 goals in his sleep is the problem is so backwards it's laughable. This is a player who has undeniable talent that's impossible to find, a player you build a team around. Patrik Laine has maintained his 5v5 production, while improving his 200 ft game.... There's no reason to think that won't continue. His PP production has declined, which has strangely enough coincided with the injuries and absence of Dustin Byfuglien at the point... Thier PP is so easy to defend, because it lacks a secondary shooting threat. Nobody is afraid of Neal Pionk's point shot, so the key in on Laine, and reduce his opportunities. It's so simple. Don't give me the "Ovechkin keeps scoring" b.s... Ovechkin has John Carlson back there absorbing a considerable amount of attention.

His 5v5 performance will improve with an upgraded 2C, and better point man on the PP. You don't try to fill lineup holes by creating other lineup holes... This team is already spinning its wheels, why would anyone think it makes any sense to take 30-40 goals off the team in an effort to make them better? It's completely backwards logic.

This offseason, they are a team with cap space, in a flat cap summer... now is the time to add, not subtract.

...

Oh, and Paul Maurice is 100% the problem.


Completely agree with you 100%, the unfortunate situation that Chevy has put us in is resigning Paul Maurice to an extension. That means NOTHING is going to change. Same old power play, same old penalty kills and same old lineups. He refuses, or cannot mentally change his mindset or game plans. The only thing he’s good at is talking and convincing people he knows what he doing.
Get used to the same old lines, the same favortisms and him suppressing the youth and their development.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
So many people harp on his all around game when it's drastically improved. He's not a liability on the ice, he's turning into a legit power forward that can score 30+ goals in his sleep.


No point debating with people who say "he doesn't make people around him better" even though his assist count doubled and he turned into the setup guy this season while his goal totals went down due to Pionk not being the powerplay QB that Buff or Myers was.
Like really even though he didn't have chemistry with Little it likely would've been better if he had Little centering his line then Copp.. Lol, his center for a lot of the year was a guy who's at best a 3C. He's a better defensive forward then Connor or Scheifele is yet he's called lazy and labeled a defensive liability, I swear the kid gets a lot of the hate he does cause he's a European.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:41 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I don’t think they trade 3rd because we need that franchise centre but 5th gives u guys that 1-2 Scheifele-Rossi punch


Rossi/Lassi? Sounds pretty good. Toss in an extra 2nd and Id be happy. Let’s us draft one of Mercer, Quinn or Jarvis with our 10 spot
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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Quoting: smrtguy90
I've seen so many of these... This is insane.

The thought that a 21 year old player who scores 30 goals in his sleep is the problem is so backwards it's laughable. This is a player who has undeniable talent that's impossible to find, a player you build a team around. Patrik Laine has maintained his 5v5 production, while improving his 200 ft game.... There's no reason to think that won't continue. His PP production has declined, which has strangely enough coincided with the injuries and absence of Dustin Byfuglien at the point... Thier PP is so easy to defend, because it lacks a secondary shooting threat. Nobody is afraid of Neal Pionk's point shot, so the key in on Laine, and reduce his opportunities. It's so simple. Don't give me the "Ovechkin keeps scoring" b.s... Ovechkin has John Carlson back there absorbing a considerable amount of attention.

His 5v5 performance will improve with an upgraded 2C, and better point man on the PP. You don't try to fill lineup holes by creating other lineup holes... This team is already spinning its wheels, why would anyone think it makes any sense to take 30-40 goals off the team in an effort to make them better? It's completely backwards logic.

This offseason, they are a team with cap space, in a flat cap summer... now is the time to add, not subtract.

...

Oh, and Paul Maurice is 100% the problem.


Totally agree, I guess a couple nice shifts from
Jansen Harkins has many thinking that Laine is expendable now?... 😃😅😂
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
No point debating with people who say "he doesn't make people around him better" even though his assist count doubled and he turned into the setup guy this season while his goal totals went down due to Pionk not being the powerplay QB that Buff or Myers was.
Like really even though he didn't have chemistry with Little it likely would've been better if he had Little centering his line then Copp.. Lol, his center for a lot of the year was a guy who's at best a 3C. He's a better defensive forward then Connor or Scheifele is yet he's called lazy and labeled a defensive liability, I swear the kid gets a lot of the hate he does cause he's a European.


I stopped arguing with people who do that. It’s not worth the time. The same ones shooting down a players game are the same ones expecting those 4 quarters for a dollar trade who pump up their own garbage while devaluing the player they are going after. It’s not worth the hassle
Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsFan35
From the Bruins, Kase and Grizz, who can play both sides, and a 2021 1st (we don’t have our 2020)


Kase is good, but not interest in Grizz and the 21’ 1st is too far out. Carlo is of interest and Studnica looks promising and is NHL ready
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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Kase is good, but not interest in Grizz and the 21’ 1st is too far out. Carlo is of interest and Studnica looks promising and is NHL ready


I would imagine that Stud and Carlo are near untouchable given our old core. How about Kase, Vladar/Keyser, and Frederic?
Aug. 17, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsFan35
I would imagine that Stud and Carlo are near untouchable given our old core. How about Kase, Vladar/Keyser, and Frederic?


Getting too far into that 4 quarters for a dollar
Aug. 17, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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Getting too far into that 4 quarters for a dollar


Fair enough
 
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