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Game 5 way too emotional lines due to Game 4

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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2020
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Let Hudon, Alzner and Weise play their final Habs game. Lets see how Poehling, Juulsen and Fleury play. Mete and Petry are good skaters, lets throw them on the wing for funnzies.


Garbage effort/hockey from Armia, Drouin, Gallagher and Tatar for the majority of the playoffs, and Domi looks like trash the past two games. These star players let the Montreal Canadiens down, bench them, trade 2 of the 5 in the offseason.
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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To be fair the Flyers are a really good hockey team that plays some solid defense.

MTL had some chances, unfortunately the greatest chance of the game goes to Belzile who shoots wide. Drouin also gets a good chance and again can't score and generally looks lost out there.

To Domi's defense he at least is trying to get pucks to danger areas even though it hasn't worked great so far. Gallagher is trying hard but Provorov is a stud and the Philly backcheck is doing a great job of preventing him from attacking the slot.

Not much shame in losing to a better team imo.
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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But Domi is worth 1st and Poulin!!!!!!! jk he looked good that one game but i would still trade him for a 1st and an average prospect no need to hold on to diminishing assets smile.
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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But Domi is worth 1st and Poulin!!!!!!! jk he looked good that one game but i would still trade him for a 1st and an average prospect no need to hold on to diminishing assets smile.


He's 25 and was on pace to hit 50 points this season. Diminishing asset is excessively harsh wording in this case. Who is MTL going to replace him with if they do trade him ? Dale Weise or Alex Belzile ?
Aug. 18, 2020 at 6:36 p.m.
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He's 25 and was on pace to hit 50 points this season. Diminishing asset is excessively harsh wording in this case. Who is MTL going to replace him with if they do trade him ? Dale Weise or Alex Belzile ?


Why are they trying to immediately replace him. They are still rebuilding and can gain assets for him Petry and Tatar. Diminishing ... you and others on this site maybe IRL People think he can be a 2c or even that same 70 point winger. The reality is that he’s a 50-55 point guy. It’s easier to sell people on the better imagine now then I would be a year or 2 from now. Diminishing value from the illusion of 70 points 2c to a 50-55 point winger.
Aug. 18, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Why are they trying to immediately replace him. They are still rebuilding and can gain assets for him Petry and Tatar. Diminishing ... you and others on this site maybe IRL People think he can be a 2c or even that same 70 point winger. The reality is that he’s a 50-55 point guy. It’s easier to sell people on the better imagine now then I would be a year or 2 from now. Diminishing value from the illusion of 70 points 2c to a 50-55 point winger.


I agree about selling Tatar and Petry since they are both 30+ but Domi is not in that situation. Tearing everything down is well and good but it's important to keep some good players. We've all seen how teams that have been terrible for a long time struggle to get going even when they do end up with good players (cough, cough Edmonton, Arizona and Buffalo).

If players like Tatar and Pageau can get 1st round picks at around 28 why not hang onto Domi and see if the 70 point form can return. If not you don't lose much since people on here already value him like a 40 point winger anyways.
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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Alzner isn’t even in the bubble.
Aug. 18, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
I agree about selling Tatar and Petry since they are both 30+ but Domi is not in that situation. Tearing everything down is well and good but it's important to keep some good players. We've all seen how teams that have been terrible for a long time struggle to get going even when they do end up with good players (cough, cough Edmonton, Arizona and Buffalo).

If players like Tatar and Pageau can get 1st round picks at around 28 why not hang onto Domi and see if the 70 point form can return. If not you don't lose much since people on here already value him like a 40 point winger anyways.


I think you could get poulin and a 1st in you take on JJ for Domi. That’s a solid return
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 8:25 p.m.
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I think you could get poulin and a 1st in you take on JJ for Domi. That’s a solid return


That is indeed but most people on here are offering much less.
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
To be fair the Flyers are a really good hockey team that plays some solid defense.

MTL had some chances, unfortunately the greatest chance of the game goes to Belzile who shoots wide. Drouin also gets a good chance and again can't score and generally looks lost out there.

To Domi's defense he at least is trying to get pucks to danger areas even though it hasn't worked great so far. Gallagher is trying hard but Provorov is a stud and the Philly backcheck is doing a great job of preventing him from attacking the slot.

Not much shame in losing to a better team imo.


I have no issue losing to a better team. I have an issue with how our veteran wingers are mostly a no show. We can say Philly is good, and that's why, but they weren't there against the Penguins either. And even if Philly is shutting them down, good players playing well still LOOK good. CBJ shut down Toronto, other than Marner, their stars still looked like stars.
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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Alzner isn’t even in the bubble.


That's the issue you have with this line-up? Ok, dress Lindgren smile
Aug. 19, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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I agree about selling Tatar and Petry since they are both 30+ but Domi is not in that situation. Tearing everything down is well and good but it's important to keep some good players. We've all seen how teams that have been terrible for a long time struggle to get going even when they do end up with good players (cough, cough Edmonton, Arizona and Buffalo).

If players like Tatar and Pageau can get 1st round picks at around 28 why not hang onto Domi and see if the 70 point form can return. If not you don't lose much since people on here already value him like a 40 point winger anyways.


I don't see Montreal trading Petry at all. I had thought it would have been a good idea in the past, but until our RD prospects step up, or we acquire someone decent, I don't see it happening.

Logically you keep Drouin, Danault and Domi. You trade Tatar and Gallagher for cap reasons while gaining assets. But Drouin has been trash except small hot streaks. He is done, get rid of him, expect nothing of value in return. Mark it up to the French media, they wanted a French savior, and it resulted in the worst trade since Roy. Danault, depends on his contract demands, but we should be able to get him to fit. Otherwise we go into next season with 4 centers with 2 years of experience or less :S . Domi, if he wants to play wing, you keep him. If not, trade him, but not to the Penguins for any of McCann, Bjugstad, 2nd, Hallinder, any number of fringe AHL players.
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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I have no issue losing to a better team. I have an issue with how our veteran wingers are mostly a no show. We can say Philly is good, and that's why, but they weren't there against the Penguins either. And even if Philly is shutting them down, good players playing well still LOOK good. CBJ shut down Toronto, other than Marner, their stars still looked like stars.


That's true but when we flip the script it's not like the stars for Philly or Pittsburgh have had their greatest playoffs either.

Outside of Hayes and more recently Couts, I don't think you can say their stars have been all that great either. As for Pittsburgh Crosby showed up but did we really see anything from Guentzel, Zucker, Malkin (although he was injured) and Letang ?

Playoffs are a grind and good teams tighten up their defense. If MTL had gotten the first goal in either of the past 2 games we might be asking where the Flyers' stars have been since the team that scored first has won each game in this series. I mean outside of the 5-0 game there has been a total of 6 goals scored in the 3 other games total.
Aug. 19, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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That's true but when we flip the script it's not like the stars for Philly or Pittsburgh have had their greatest playoffs either.

Outside of Hayes and more recently Couts, I don't think you can say their stars have been all that great either. As for Pittsburgh Crosby showed up but did we really see anything from Guentzel, Zucker, Malkin (although he was injured) and Letang ?

Playoffs are a grind and good teams tighten up their defense. If MTL had gotten the first goal in either of the past 2 games we might be asking where the Flyers' stars have been since the team that scored first has won each game in this series. I mean outside of the 5-0 game there has been a total of 6 goals scored in the 3 other games total.


To be fair, Malkin was playing great the first couple games. I think our defense/Price were just up to the task/lucky.
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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I don't see Montreal trading Petry at all. I had thought it would have been a good idea in the past, but until our RD prospects step up, or we acquire someone decent, I don't see it happening.

Logically you keep Drouin, Danault and Domi. You trade Tatar and Gallagher for cap reasons while gaining assets. But Drouin has been trash except small hot streaks. He is done, get rid of him, expect nothing of value in return. Mark it up to the French media, they wanted a French savior, and it resulted in the worst trade since Roy. Danault, depends on his contract demands, but we should be able to get him to fit. Otherwise we go into next season with 4 centers with 2 years of experience or less :S . Domi, if he wants to play wing, you keep him. If not, trade him, but not to the Penguins for any of McCann, Bjugstad, 2nd, Hallinder, any number of fringe AHL players.


I'd keep Gallagher unless someone makes an offer you can't refuse. He's the ultimate pro and the kids need to have a guy like that to avoid developing a losing culture like EDM and BUF have been struggling with for years now.

I agree on Drouin but not Domi. Both are inconsistent to varying degrees but to me Domi is a legit top 6 player who produces every year. The difference between them imo is that when Domi is off he still tries to get pucks to the danger areas while Drouin just stays away from the play when he's off.

As for Petry it depends on what another team is willing to offer. After his performances these past few years he will likely be worth a fair bit to a contender. If no one wants to pay a the price for him then I have no problems with Bergevin giving him an extension so long as it's less than 5 years.
Aug. 19, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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I'd keep Gallagher unless someone makes an offer you can't refuse. He's the ultimate pro and the kids need to have a guy like that to avoid developing a losing culture like EDM and BUF have been struggling with for years now.

I agree on Drouin but not Domi. Both are inconsistent to varying degrees but to me Domi is a legit top 6 player who produces every year. The difference between them imo is that when Domi is off he still tries to get pucks to the danger areas while Drouin just stays away from the play when he's off.

As for Petry it depends on what another team is willing to offer. After his performances these past few years he will likely be worth a fair bit to a contender. If no one wants to pay a the price for him then I have no problems with Bergevin giving him an extension so long as it's less than 5 years.


I have no issue with Domi as a player. I have an issue if the rumours of him wanting to be center are true.


Rumour was, Carolina offered Bean and a 1st at the deadline, Bergevin refused. If true, I don't see Petry getting traded.
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