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GET YOUNGER - The 4-Trade Off-Season - 3- Way 3- Goalie Trade- PIT- TOR- BUF

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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2020
Published: Aug. 20, 2020
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~~~~~ Have been thinking of a couple New Trades .......throwing these out there for some feed back [U don't have to be a d***, either]
- Not sure of if they are fair OR if they fill other teams needs OR what I think of these yet = (until I get crushed by comments , lol)

For WAYS For THE PENS To GET :

1) - YOUNGER - This team has [1] under 28yrs old Forward w/ some possible Upside [McCann] & he isn't even under contract yet, LOL - (just so sad)
Got: Nylander - 24 / Faksa - 26 / Roslovic - 23 / Gurianov - 22
*** IMO that would do wonders for this Old a** team!!

2) - MORE PHYSICAL (LOL, or should I say...) get 1 Physical guy? [NOT a FIGHTER tho, just not SOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF like all these Pens]
Got : Faksa @ Forward / Forbort / Mayfield on Back-end

3) - GET SID A REAL RWer -
Got : Nylander or Granlund



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***** THE MONSTER ~ [3] - TEAM TRADE ~~~~~ Pittsburgh - Toronto - Buffalo *****

[PIT] gets :
~ RW- W. NYLANDER #88 - [$6.9m] ~~~~ This is Kessel 2.0 - A legit Star (but only 24) that gets crushed in TOR but even better 5 on 5 & will come here & win 2- Cups too.
~ G- L. ULLMARK #30 - [RFA] ~~~~~~~~~ An underrated Goalie who has got better each yr in NHL & would be a perfect 1B to Jarry. Plus could sign on the cheap.

**- PENS - "FINALLY" get that- RH Top 6 guy in Nylander, we desperately needed (since Phil left) to play that Left wall spot on PP #1, Able to play w/ both of Sid or Geno, is a very good to great 5 on 5 player, and is only 24yrs old, & is great at Zone Entries on PP too. PLUS Get that 1B Goalie w/ NHL experience for the 1st yr Starting 1A- Jarry.
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[TOR] gets :
~ G- M. MURRAY #30 - [RFA] ~~~~~~~~ Needs a change after a down injury riddled yr. But is still only 26, has 2 Cups, cheaper than Freddy, & a proven winner. TOR needs all of this.
~ LW- J. ZUCKER #16 - [$5.5m] ~~~~~~~ A Feisty type winger, w/ crazy speed, that will get dirty Goals, & cheaper than Nylander
~ RHD- B. MONTOUR #62 - [RFA] ~~~~~ An underrated younger puck-moving RHD that can move the puck great & play on PP that can be locked up to a fair deal.

**- LEAFS - gets a lil Cap Relief in Murray @ $4.5ish w/ Freddy needing new Contract & a Goalie that is proven, Get Zucker @ 5.5 < Willy @ 7 & a guy that scores dirty goals but still skilled & a needed LH-Winger. AND finally get that RHD-man they need in Montour.
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[BUF] gets :
~ G- F. ANDERSEN #31 - [$5m] ~~~~~~~ A legit #1 vet. Starting Goalie that can be easily re-signed w/ only 1 yr left. A perfect guy to be there when UPL comes up.
~ LHD- J. RIIKOLA #50 - [RFA] ~~~~~~~~~ Only 25 after a 1st good yr in NHL - Riikola is at least a #5 or #6 (look at hi Lytics) who didnt get time in [PIT] bc of the coaches love for JJ, smh
~ LW- J. ALMEIDA [Prospect] ~~~~~~~~~~ Coming off 2 yrs of 98 & 111 points in WHL, Almeida struggled his 1st pro yr but there is still skill there for the winger.

**- SABRES - get a real #1 Goalie in Freddy (Ullmark is good but not a #1) that they can sign long term & possibly have a 2 Goalie tandem when UPL is ready & when Re-build is complete. Also an underrated LHD-man that can play both sides = as good. AND the small quick type prospect they like, that put up big #'s in JR's.

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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
2$2,100,000
2$775,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$875,000
2$1,900,000
3$1,750,000
2$2,800,000
3$1,900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,750,000
1$2,100,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Andersen, Frederik
Additional Details:
Andersen to [BUF]
TOR
    Needed G- F. ANDERSEN for......

    **START OF 3 - TEAM TRADE**
    ~-~ [PIT] ~ [TOR] ~ [BUF] ~-~
    {Break-Dahn' In Description Part}
    2.
    PIT
    1. Montour, Brandon [RFA Rights]
    2. Ullmark, Linus [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    **PART (2) OF 3 - TEAM TRADE**
    ~-~ [PIT] ~ [TOR] ~ [BUF] ~-~
    {Break-Dahn' In Description Part}
    3.
    PIT
    1. Nylander, William
    Additional Details:
    ** END OF 3 - TEAM TRADE **
    ~-~ [PIT] ~ [TOR] ~ [BUF] ~-~
    {Break-Dahn' In Description Part}
    TOR
    1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
    2. Zucker, Jason
    Additional Details:
    3. MONTOUR, Brandon [RFA]
    4.
    PIT
    1. Roslovic, Jack [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    ~ ROSLOVIC - absolutely love this kids game & think he could become a 3rd Center or a Top 6 Winger but for now he would bring youth to that 3rd line as a RW.
    WPG
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach
    2. Légaré, Nathan
    Additional Details:
    ~ ZAR - is a Bottom 6 LWer that is maybe the best Defensive Forward in NHL & a great PK guy, who's value is high after this season.

    ~ LEGARE - Tough to trade bc of his Top 6 RH-RWer future ability but the Nylander trade makes this hurt less.
    5.
    PIT
    1. Faksa, Radek [RFA Rights]
    2. Gurianov, Denis [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    ~ FAKSA - I think I've been trading for him for last 3+ yrs, lol. After a down yr production & analytically wise, We finally snag him up. The perfect Defensively 1st - 3C w/ a physical side.

    ~ GURIANOV - Have loved this kid since his draft yr & always wondered why it didn't work in DAL. But after finally getting NHL time & producing. The young Russian comes to play on line w/ Geno & Nylander = Get ur Popcorn ready kids.
    DAL
    1. Johnson, Jack
    2. Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
    3. Rust, Bryan
    Additional Details:
    ~ RUSTY - Trading Rusty is like a punch in the gut, bc of how important he is in every situation. BUT if we could get back a Real 3C & an exciting young player, I mite be down? PLUS the Roslovic trade gives us a RH Bottom 6 Wing.
    ~ E-ROD - Is a fast bottom 6 Center but is very versatile being able to play either wing too & a great PK guy.
    ~ JOHNSON - is what he is, a Cap Dump for The Pens & our Cap situation. BUT JJ can still play on the 3rd Pairing (as long as his partner is good, like S. Johns) + still isn't as bad as Polak. PLUS it's prob only for 1 year then goes to Seattle in Exp. Draft.
    6.
    PIT
    1. Mayfield, Scott
    Additional Details:
    ~ MAYFIELD - has become a really solid RHD-man that is physical (which we need on our SOFFFFFF team) but can also make good short passes in own zone & get puck up to Forwards quickly. + his Cap hit is perfect for a Good 3rd pairing RHD-man.
    NYI
    1. Bjugstad, Nick
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
    Additional Details:
    ** CONDITIONAL - 22' - 3rd Rdr [PIT]
    * Pick becomes - 22' - 5th Rdr [PIT]
    -If Bjugstad plays over {70} gms in 20'-21'
    * Pick Returns to [PIT]
    - If Bjugstad Resigns w/ [NYI] after 20'-21'

    ~ BJUGSTAD - is the better player & could be a steal in that [NYI] system but "IF HEALTHY" is the Risk / Reward here. Plus NYI have to find away to get Dobson in line-up w/ Boycheck & Pulock already at RHD & also B. Wilde coming.
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    2020
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$78,537,541$0$850,000$2,962,459

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $1,900,000$1,900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    $2,800,000$2,800,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    $1,900,000$1,900,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $875,000$875,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $775,000$775,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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    I like Rosy but also really like ZAR. Jets accept.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Buffalo declines... Anderson might be a bit better than Ullmark but Linus is younger and will probably be signed for a longer term and smaller cap hit (That's very valuable in a flat cap world) and Montour is probably better or equal to Riikola...Almeida played poorly in the ECHL and is worth almost nothing to the Sabres.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Toronto says nope
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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    Toronto rejects very easily.

    I rather pay 7M for Nylander than 10M for Zucker + Montour

    Nylander (70 point guy) (age 24) (4 years left) --> Zucker (50 point guy) (age 28) (3 years left) + Montour (RHD with too high a QO based on his performance)

    The only winner in this three way trade is the Penguins. They get the best forward and the best goalie...
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:12 p.m.
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    buff wants NO PART of this
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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    Neither player is needed by the Jets. Winnipeg says no.
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Toronto rejects very easily.

    I rather pay 7M for Nylander than 10M for Zucker + Montour

    Nylander (70 point guy) (age 24) (4 years left) --> Zucker (50 point guy) (age 28) (3 years left) + Montour (RHD with too high a QO based on his performance)

    The only winner in this three way trade is the Penguins. They get the best forward and the best goalie...


    I agree Nylander is better than Zucker... but both Freddy and Murray KILL Ullmark
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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    The 3 team aside the islanders need to shed cap not pay bjud whos a bottom 6 forward for them. id think dallas declines. Faksa is solid and gurianov had 20 goals in 60 games and is what 22. Rodriguez is nothing, I like rust but eating jj contract just explodes that deal.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: chloewoj
    buff wants NO PART of this


    Quoting: Bond007
    Buffalo declines... Anderson might be a bit better than Ullmark but Linus is younger and will probably be signed for a longer term and smaller cap hit (That's very valuable in a flat cap world) and Montour is probably better or equal to Riikola...Almeida played poorly in the ECHL and is worth almost nothing to the Sabres.



    for a team that sucks, I dont think any fans overrate their players more than Buffalo. Ullmark easily could be an AHL calibre goalie next season. Freddy is by far a clear upgrade. the only "concern" would be if Freddy signs long term, but if he was willing to, Buffalo gives up a RHD who struggled and they have a surplus of, and an unproven goalie who very well could be an AHLer for a legit starter.
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.
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    Dallas declines. Rust is fine, be he’s a 28-year old that just broke out this season. Gurianov broke out, and in an awful offensive system still managed to lead the team with 20 goals, as a 22-year old.

    Simply not enough coming back to Dallas to warrant losing Gurianov, especially if you’re going to include Jack Johnson’s awful contract. Faksa is definitely tradable though, so you’re on to something there, but Gurianov is going to be off the table on a trade like this.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    for a team that sucks, I dont think any fans overrate their players more than Buffalo. Ullmark easily could be an AHL calibre goalie next season. Freddy is by far a clear upgrade. the only "concern" would be if Freddy signs long term, but if he was willing to, Buffalo gives up a RHD who struggled and they have a surplus of, and an unproven goalie who very well could be an AHLer for a legit starter.


    Ullmark has better stats than Andersen in a worst team, is younger, less expensive, under team control for longer and still has room to grow...He is clearly more valuable to Buffalo than Andersen would be
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    for a team that sucks, I dont think any fans overrate their players more than Buffalo. Ullmark easily could be an AHL calibre goalie next season. Freddy is by far a clear upgrade. the only "concern" would be if Freddy signs long term, but if he was willing to, Buffalo gives up a RHD who struggled and they have a surplus of, and an unproven goalie who very well could be an AHLer for a legit starter.


    we literally sh*t on all our players for fun. we literally hate them all. we can’t stand any of them. we never overrate them lmfao.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    I agree Nylander is better than Zucker... but both Freddy and Murray KILL Ullmark


    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Toronto rejects very easily.

    I rather pay 7M for Nylander than 10M for Zucker + Montour

    Nylander (70 point guy) (age 24) (4 years left) --> Zucker (50 point guy) (age 28) (3 years left) + Montour (RHD with too high a QO based on his performance)

    The only winner in this three way trade is the Penguins. They get the best forward and the best goalie...


    I heard a rumour that due to some arb rules... the sabres may not be qualifying montour.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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    So...

    Murray, Zucker, Riikola, Almeida for Nylander, Ullmark

    Ullmark could be #3 behind Jarry and DeSmith

    Nylander is not improvement enough over Zucker for the $1.5M add to the cap PLUS Murray in trade.

    Not a good 3way for the Pens.
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: chloewoj
    we literally sh*t on all our players for fun. we literally hate them all. we can’t stand any of them. we never overrate them lmfao.


    But then say Eichel is better than Matthews?...

    The only time you don't over rate your players is when you guys are signing them... today I saw Olofsson 3Mx3 lmao.
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    I heard a rumour that due to some arb rules... the sabres may not be qualifying montour.


    I mean personally I would qualify him and give him a chance to rebound. It's not like Buffalo's attractive for top tier free agents anyways.
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    I mean personally I would qualify him and give him a chance to rebound. It's not like Buffalo's attractive for top tier free agents anyways.


    I did not have a chance to look into it yet, maybe I will now. It has something to do with new arb rules.
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: bunzy1034
    I like Rosy but also really like ZAR. Jets accept.


    Thanks
    Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    But then say Eichel is better than Matthews?...

    The only time you don't over rate your players is when you guys are signing them... today I saw Olofsson 3Mx3 lmao.

    i can hate jack eichel but he’s still better than auston matthews...jacks superior skill doesn’t go away when i hate him...
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Yojimbo
    So...

    Murray, Zucker, Riikola, Almeida for Nylander, Ullmark

    Ullmark could be #3 behind Jarry and DeSmith

    Nylander is not improvement enough over Zucker for the $1.5M add to the cap PLUS Murray in trade.

    Not a good 3way for the Pens.


    Ullmark has been getting better every year in NHL - He is about 250 times better than DeSmith
    34 gms played this yr - .915 sv% & 2.69 GAA
    NHL Career - .911 sv% & 2.81 GAA
    And thats on a horrible BUF team, imagine if he played for a good team?
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bond007
    Buffalo declines... Anderson might be a bit better than Ullmark but Linus is younger and will probably be signed for a longer term and smaller cap hit (That's very valuable in a flat cap world) and Montour is probably better or equal to Riikola...Almeida played poorly in the ECHL and is worth almost nothing to the Sabres.


    Fair enough, I really like Ullmark as a 1B
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    I agree Nylander is better than Zucker... but both Freddy and Murray KILL Ullmark


    I was hoping nobody knew Ullmark was actually good, lol
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jfstompers
    The 3 team aside the islanders need to shed cap not pay bjud whos a bottom 6 forward for them. id think dallas declines. Faksa is solid and gurianov had 20 goals in 60 games and is what 22. Rodriguez is nothing, I like rust but eating jj contract just explodes that deal.


    Fair enough , Thanks for the reply
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    Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: TheMooterus
    Dallas declines. Rust is fine, be he’s a 28-year old that just broke out this season. Gurianov broke out, and in an awful offensive system still managed to lead the team with 20 goals, as a 22-year old.

    Simply not enough coming back to Dallas to warrant losing Gurianov, especially if you’re going to include Jack Johnson’s awful contract. Faksa is definitely tradable though, so you’re on to something there, but Gurianov is going to be off the table on a trade like this.


    Thanks for the reply but yah I did it for Gurianov... always liked the kid and tried to steal him bf he starts to blow up next cpl yrs here.
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