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Aug. 21, 2020 at 11:31 a.m.
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how good is Mittelstadt?
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I don't hate the jets deal. I don't like the idea of trading away Copp cause I wanna see Lowry go instead.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
how good is Mittelstadt?


lmfao you don’t want to know
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Aug. 21, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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lmfao you don’t want to know


flames decline LOL
Aug. 21, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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Quoting: cgy_flame_fan
how good is Mittelstadt?


Quoting: chloewoj
lmfao you don’t want to know


Of the 200+ players at the scouting combine his draft year, he was the only one who failed to do a single pull-up LOL
Then BUF drafted him in the first round lol
Aug. 21, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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I don't see Winnipeg having any interest. Hutton is too expensive for a backup and Montour isn't really needed.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 12:05 p.m.
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Of the 200+ players at the scouting combine his draft year, he was the only one who failed to do a single pull-up LOL
Then BUF drafted him in the first round lol

he finished in the bottom 5 of virtually every test at the combine. if that doesn’t tell you something about the sabres scouting team then idk what does.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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he finished in the bottom 5 of virtually every test at the combine. if that doesn’t tell you something about the sabres scouting team then idk what does.


The worst part is, he knew at least one year in advance that he would be attending this combine and didnt make any effort at all to train/practice/work out etc.
Imagine knowing youd have one of the biggest tests in your life in one year time and not even bother to train/study for it
Aug. 21, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
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The worst part is, he knew at least one year in advance that he would be attending this combine and didnt make any effort at all to train/practice/work out etc.
Imagine knowing youd have one of the biggest tests in your life in one year time and not even bother to train/study for it

that is really bad but you know what’s even worse???? he looks like the pillsbury doughboy but he continues to do nothing about it...he goes golfing everyday instead of working out...it’s like he doesn’t want a spot in buff
Aug. 21, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.
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Of the 200+ players at the scouting combine his draft year, he was the only one who failed to do a single pull-up LOL
Then BUF drafted him in the first round lol


WTF!, i can do 12 pullups!
Aug. 21, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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I believe Mittelstadt could be a 2C if he pans out. He could end up more on the wing. He reminds me a lot of Turris. His initial development was de-railed when they brought him into the NHL as a 19yr old and he didn’t have the strength at the time to play against grown men after playing HS hockey and then basically one year of NCAA.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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that is really bad but you know what’s even worse???? he looks like the pillsbury doughboy but he continues to do nothing about it...he goes golfing everyday instead of working out...it’s like he doesn’t want a spot in buff


lets be honest though, who does want a spot playing in BUF lol
Aug. 21, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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I believe Mittelstadt could be a 2C if he pans out. He could end up more on the wing. He reminds me a lot of Turris. His initial development was de-railed when they brought him into the NHL as a 19yr old and he didn’t have the strength at the time to play against grown men after playing HS hockey and then basically one year of NCAA.


Hes been considered outside of a first/second line potential for like 3 years now.
https://dobberprospects.com/player/casey-mittlestadt/
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WTF!, i can do 12 pullups!


weird flex but ok
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Aug. 21, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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lets be honest though, who does want a spot playing in BUF lol


lmfao fu*k off
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Aug. 21, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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Hes been considered outside of a first/second line potential for like 3 years now.
https://dobberprospects.com/player/casey-mittlestadt/


3yrs? He’s 21. 3yrs should he was 18 and rated by many amongst the top prospects in the game. He fell off real quick because he wash rushed into the league when needing more development.

I’m not saying he’s a top-line guy, but I could see his high being a legit 2C and his low being a .3rd line LW. He has tools he just needs a team/coach who can help develop his game.
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3yrs? He’s 21. 3yrs should he was 18 and rated by many amongst the top prospects in the game. He fell off real quick because he wash rushed into the league when needing more development.

I’m not saying he’s a top-line guy, but I could see his high being a legit 2C and his low being a .3rd line LW. He has tools he just needs a team/coach who can help develop his game.


I think you were slightly misinformed that he was amongst the top prospects (ceiling wise), he was a "safe bet" as a middle 6 guy.
His stock dropped during the scouting combine (see below quote from another BUF fan in this thread), dude was the only one there (200+ players) who couldnt do a single pullup.
BUF selecting him 8th was too early.

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he finished in the bottom 5 of virtually every test at the combine. if that doesn’t tell you something about the sabres scouting team then idk what does.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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3yrs? He’s 21. 3yrs should he was 18 and rated by many amongst the top prospects in the game. He fell off real quick because he wash rushed into the league when needing more development.

I’m not saying he’s a top-line guy, but I could see his high being a legit 2C and his low being a .3rd line LW. He has tools he just needs a team/coach who can help develop his game.


Heres a good read on Mittelstadt if you are interested:
https://lastwordonhockey.com/2020/07/11/drafting-casey-mittelstadt-was-a-bad-idea/
Aug. 21, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.
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Heres a good read on Mittelstadt if you are interested:
https://lastwordonhockey.com/2020/07/11/drafting-casey-mittelstadt-was-a-bad-idea/


I understand he’s now viewed this way. Hindsight is 20/20. In September of 2018 Corey Pronman of the Athletic had Dahlin as his top NHL prospect. Mittelstadt was #3 in the entire league. I’m not saying he will be this good. I’m saying that there were people saying this about Mittelstadt and that if he gets stronger he has the ability to be a top-6 forward in the league.
Aug. 21, 2020 at 3:49 p.m.
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I understand he’s now viewed this way. Hindsight is 20/20. In September of 2018 Corey Pronman of the Athletic had Dahlin as his top NHL prospect. Mittelstadt was #3 in the entire league. I’m not saying he will be this good. I’m saying that there were people saying this about Mittelstadt and that if he gets stronger he has the ability to be a top-6 forward in the league.


Im telling you his stock is dropping and theres many reports out there that support that thought
https://dobberprospects.com/player/casey-mittlestadt/
^ below a first/second line projection (wasnt even first line ceiling at the time of being drafted)
Aug. 21, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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Im telling you his stock is dropping and theres many reports out there that support that thought
https://dobberprospects.com/player/casey-mittlestadt/
^ below a first/second line projection (wasnt even first line ceiling at the time of being drafted)


If you’re looking at the PNHLe, it’s an expected point calculator, not necessarily a projection of the players role as an NHL player. If you read the initial synopsis it says,

“Dynamic offensive player who brings speed and creativity to the ice every shift, more than a complementary top-line player who is capable of driving offense himself.”

So he was projected as a top-line player, his development tailed off during 2018 and 2019, and the. Slightly rose back as he gained his footing in the AHL. His point production currently translates to a 2nd line forward. So he has top-6 upside, as in a 2C
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Quoting: Dkollidas
If you’re looking at the PNHLe, it’s an expected point calculator, not necessarily a projection of the players role as an NHL player. If you read the initial synopsis it says,

“Dynamic offensive player who brings speed and creativity to the ice every shift, more than a complementary top-line player who is capable of driving offense himself.”

So he was projected as a top-line player, his development tailed off during 2018 and 2019, and the. Slightly rose back as he gained his footing in the AHL. His point production currently translates to a 2nd line forward. So he has top-6 upside, as in a 2C


did you click the link?
did you scroll to the bottom?
did you look at the chart?
Aug. 21, 2020 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
did you click the link?
did you scroll to the bottom?
did you look at the chart?


Yup. The one that shows his “pNHLe” like I said above? It’s an “expected point calculator”.

It does NOT reflect his projection as a player, just points. As I said, his POINT PRODUCTION was ESTIMATED BY THAT CALCULATOR as a 2nd line player, dipped a bit in 2019, and is back up to a top-6 player currently. In the chart he’s literally currently listed as a 2nd line point producer if his AHL was calculated to the NHL.

But according to prognosticators around the league,
Going into the 2018-2019 season, he was seen as a top-5 prospect league wide. Then he was rushed as a 19yr old who played one year of college hockey and was not anywhere near ready for NHL play. Bitter I’ll did this again in 2019-2020, for half the season then Mittelstadt was sent to Rochester.

He simply wasn’t NHL ready. He needs conditioning in the AHL and to find his game there.

I’m not saying I believe he’s a top line forward. I’m saying that he had that said about him.

But regarding the chart you keep referring to, it currently has his production in the AHL translating to that of a 2nd line NHL forward
Aug. 21, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Dkollidas
Yup. The one that shows his “pNHLe” like I said above? It’s an “expected point calculator”.

It does NOT reflect his projection as a player, just points. As I said, his POINT PRODUCTION was ESTIMATED BY THAT CALCULATOR as a 2nd line player, dipped a bit in 2019, and is back up to a top-6 player currently. In the chart he’s literally currently listed as a 2nd line point producer if his AHL was calculated to the NHL.

But according to prognosticators around the league,
Going into the 2018-2019 season, he was seen as a top-5 prospect league wide. Then he was rushed as a 19yr old who played one year of college hockey and was not anywhere near ready for NHL play. Bitter I’ll did this again in 2019-2020, for half the season then Mittelstadt was sent to Rochester.

He simply wasn’t NHL ready. He needs conditioning in the AHL and to find his game there.

I’m not saying I believe he’s a top line forward. I’m saying that he had that said about him.

But regarding the chart you keep referring to, it currently has his production in the AHL translating to that of a 2nd line NHL forward


Top 5 prospect league wide?!?
Ok, now I can confirm you are both trolling and uneducated on these topics of discussion
 
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