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Trading Matthews and Rielly

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Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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We're looking for a pairing for Rielly, not to trade him.
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Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.
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There is nothing Toronto has that gets them Dahlin.
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Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
We're looking for a pairing for Rielly, not to trade him.


And what player are we using to get that pairing for Rielly?
Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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There is nothing Toronto has that gets them Dahlin.


Matthews > Eichel > Tavares > Dahlin > Marner
Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Matthews > Eichel > Tavares > Dahlin > Marner


You’re close here. Tavares doesn’t outrank Dahlin though — the 5-year value of Dahlin is higher than Johnny T because of age, position, and cap hit.
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Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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Give me Dahlin and Parayko over Rielly and Dermott every day of the year.

Defense is improved, but the Matthews for Cozens swap hurts quite a bit. So even though the value is interesting, I don’t think this is the right path for Dubas to take.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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And what player are we using to get that pairing for Rielly?


Nylander seems like the only real option. I think TOR would be "crazier" to even consider moving any of: Matthews, Tavares, Marner, (Rielly, obviously).

So if the only option is to do a 1-for-1 swap, Nylander is the only guy on this roster that can bring back the right quality. Cap hit is a big reason for that.

That said, I think a package of Kapanen + Kerfoot + one of the young D prospects who won't be on the Leafs roster in 2020-21 is also an interesting way to go after a 2nd pair RD. But you won't get a 1st pairing RD with that package, and if that's the objective, then Nylander is the only real option.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
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There is nothing Toronto has that gets them Dahlin.


crazy, because there's nothing Buffalo has that gets them matthews
Aug. 23, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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DaFuq???
Aug. 23, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.
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crazy, because there's nothing Buffalo has that gets them matthews


That’s fine because we don’t need him. We have a better player who costs less.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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That’s fine because we don’t need him. We have a better player who costs less.


Lol, no you dont
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.
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Lol, no you dont


Eichel is better than Matthews and costs $1.5 million less. Matthews can score goals but he can’t set anybody up. That’s why Marner plays with him, he can pass. Matthews is a pretty one dimensional player.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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Eichel is better than Matthews and costs $1.5 million less. Matthews can score goals but he can’t set anybody up. That’s why Marner plays with him, he can pass. Matthews is a pretty one dimensional player.


Ah, i see you have no idea who auston matthews is. Matthews not only scores significantly more goals than eichel, hes better defensively and his assists are mostly primary ones while eichel relies much more strongly on secondary assists which means hes letting someone else do all the lifting
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.
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Ah, i see you have no idea who auston matthews is. Matthews not only scores significantly more goals than eichel, hes better defensively and his assists are mostly primary ones while eichel relies much more strongly on secondary assists which means hes letting someone else do all the lifting


Eichel carries the entire offense in Buffalo currently, everything runs through him. Toronto bought Tavares so Matthews would have a playmaker to carry the burden. On another team Matthews could not carry the offense, he needs someone else to get him the puck. You don’t have to like it, but it’s true. Buffalo’s hometown superstar is in Chicago, so we’re not buying one like Toronto did.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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Eichel carries the entire offense in Buffalo currently, everything runs through him. Toronto bought Tavares so Matthews would have a playmaker to carry the burden. On another team Matthews could not carry the offense, he needs someone else to get him the puck. You don’t have to like it, but it’s true. Buffalo’s hometown superstar is in Chicago, so we’re not buying one like Toronto did.


Yeah, you have no idea
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.
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Yeah, you have no idea


You keep telling yourself that. Have fun with your four-man team and no money for any kind of supporting cast. Marner is a very good player, but he will never be worth what you’re paying him. He would have to actually score 100 points a year, not just be capable of it.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 4:36 p.m.
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You keep telling yourself that. Have fun with your four-man team and no money for any kind of supporting cast. Marner is a very good player, but he will never be worth what you’re paying him. He would have to actually score 100 points a year, not just be capable of it.


my goodness, the jealousy is palpable.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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my goodness, the jealousy is palpable.


😆 Right, 1967 gets further away every day.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
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😆 Right, 1967 gets further away every day.


are you, a fan of the Buffalo Sabres, talking smack about cup droughts? I'ma let you think on that
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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are you, a fan of the Buffalo Sabres, talking smack about cup droughts? I'ma let you think on that

It’s been so long you haven’t won since we joined the league. At least we’ve been to the finals since then. The last time you won the league only had eight teams. That’s more pathetic than not winning against actual competition. That’s OK, you can enjoy your NFL team. Oh wait, Ralph Wilson used your own money to make sure Toronto would never get our team. But I’m sure the Argonauts are fun.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
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It’s been so long you haven’t won since we joined the league. At least we’ve been to the finals since then. The last time you won the league only had eight teams. That’s more pathetic than not winning against actual competition. That’s OK, you can enjoy your NFL team. Oh wait, Ralph Wilson used your own money to make sure Toronto would never get our team. But I’m sure the Argonauts are fun.


yo, everyone, the virgin is makin fun of the dude who hasnt gotten laid in a while.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
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yo, everyone, the virgin is makin fun of the dude who hasnt gotten laid in a while.


Is there anything worse than a rich man who still can’t get laid? That’s the Toronto Maple Leafs for you. If Donald Trump can pay for it I’d have to think even you could. The Leafs need a real number one goalie if they’re going to get out of the first round. Andersen gets you there, but obviously no further.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
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Is there anything worse than a rich man who still can’t get laid? That’s the Toronto Maple Leafs for you. If Donald Trump can pay for it I’d have to think even you could. The Leafs need a real number one goalie if they’re going to get out of the first round. Andersen gets you there, but obviously no further.


i too would be pent up if my team had never felt the tender touch of a lover
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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i too would be pent up if my team had never felt the tender touch of a lover


I’ll bet it didn’t happen in your lifetime. It sounds like you need a woman a lot more than you need to be on your phone right now. Go outside it’s nice here, it must be nice there too.
Aug. 23, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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I’ll bet it didn’t happen in your lifetime. It sounds like you need a woman a lot more than you need to be on your phone right now. Go outside it’s nice here, it must be nice there too.


shhhh, it's ok, the Sabres might one day make the playoffs again and then maybe, just maybe a cup! It's possible! One day their biggest achievement wont me a finals loss and they can finally surpass the ottawa senators
 
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