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Big time trade sorta

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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 24, 2020
Published: Aug. 24, 2020
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Here's my attempt at being a good armchair gm altho I doubt i ever will be good lolol butitsfunsoimakeepdoingit
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
3$4,000,000
6$6,500,000
2$4,000,000
4$4,250,000
1$925,000
2$950,000
2$925,000
2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,250,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
Winnipeg gets a decent defender on the right which they need. Yes Laines contract has 1 year left as well as Pionk but they also have Perrault Lowry and Copp's contract expiring and Im pretty sure that's good enough
WPG
  1. Miller, Colin
Additional Details:
Sabers stay within the cap and acquire either a trading asset or just draft with
2.
BUF
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($500,000 retained)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Habs get the 8th overall pick freeing up 5 mill for three years which will come in handy for resigning Suzuki and Kotkaniemi as they did real good in the playoffs and Nick Suzuki was great during the regular season. Retaining 500k isn't the biggest deal because of how much money they have but they've got some big time contracts coming up so yeah. The mock draft I saw last week on Sportsnet said the 8th overall pick could be Alex Holtz.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
8th overall pick
If the sabers could get Alex Holtz why go after Drouin?
Cuz eichel is tired of sucking lol and Holtz will take some time to get super duper duper good and who even know if Holtz is going 8th could be anyone. But sabers have had a long time of sucking at 8th overall picks so I think this works out pretty okay. I wanna say it's even but I'll have sabers fans telling me maybe it's too much or Habs fans saying it's not enough idontknowmanlol
3.
BUF
    FuTuRe cOnsIdeRaTioNs
    EDM
    1. Hutton, Carter
    Additional Details:
    Send him anywhere lol
    Buyouts
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    2020
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    2021
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    22$81,500,000$77,165,833$1,487,500$4,470,000$4,334,167
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    C
    UFA - 6
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
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    UFA - 1
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    UFA - 7
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    LW
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    $950,000$950,000
    LW, C
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    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    G
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    $2,850,000$2,850,000
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    RD
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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    oof no. Drouin isnt worth 8OA. The Sabres already have Skinner. Olofsson and Kahun are also LWers
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    oof no. Drouin isnt worth 8OA. The Sabres already have Skinner. Olofsson and Kahun are also LWers


    Who would you rather go for trading the 8th pick cuz Skinner's ass and sabers need another top six dood who ya got or do you just keep the picc and ruin my post entirely lololohwell
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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    Miller is not worth a 2nd especially with the season he had and his cap hit. Winnipeg declines.
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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    So if the Sabres are trying to appease Eichel by their offseason acquisitions Drouin does not hit the mark. Eichel's comments on the team were that they appeared to have a lot of up and coming talent but they need to add more toughness, competitiveness, consistency and veteran leadership. Drouin is extremely talented but those type of traits aren't used to describe him.
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rooney
    Miller is not worth a 2nd especially with the season he had and his cap hit. Winnipeg declines.


    What is he worth then :o
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canucks_Fan69
    Who would you rather go for trading the 8th pick cuz Skinner's ass and sabers need another top six dood who ya got or do you just keep the picc and ruin my post entirely lololohwell


    Skinner is fine, he had no centerman, which is what the Sabres are looking for. Sabres dont need a left winger, Its the last position they need to look at. I'd much rather keep the pick
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rooney
    Miller is not worth a 2nd especially with the season he had and his cap hit. Winnipeg declines.


    He had a pretty good year
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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    Anything not top5 in this year's draft is a prospect not yet ready for the NHL. Drouin is absolutely worth 8th overall. He had a bad 2020 but was a point/game player the first 24 games of the year and had strong moments in the playoffs, but overall more was expected.
    Drouin is definitely worth 8th Overall. I think this trade is fair.
    That being said I see Bergevin trying to hold onto Drouin next season to get him to play more with Suzuki. They plaid well together.
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Skinner is fine, he had no centerman, which is what the Sabres are looking for. Sabres dont need a left winger, Its the last position they need to look at. I'd much rather keep the pick


    Why u bully me
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
    Anything not top5 in this year's draft is a prospect not yet ready for the NHL. Drouin is absolutely worth 8th overall. He had a bad 2020 but was a point/game player the first 24 games of the year and had strong moments in the playoffs, but overall more was expected.
    Drouin is definitely worth 8th Overall. I think this trade is fair.
    That being said I see Bergevin trying to hold onto Drouin next season to get him to play more with Suzuki. They plaid well together.


    Ohh damnnnnn you actually think I didn't suck that hardddd yOOOoOOoooooOOO that's something
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: dzmets
    So if the Sabres are trying to appease Eichel by their offseason acquisitions Drouin does not hit the mark. Eichel's comments on the team were that they appeared to have a lot of up and coming talent but they need to add more toughness, competitiveness, consistency and veteran leadership. Drouin is extremely talented but those type of traits aren't used to describe him.


    That's definitely true. There are some games I watch and wonder if he's daydreaming out there. Then there are games where Drouin tries so hard...he frigging skates with his stick up in the aair like a sword it just looks awkward.
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    oof no. Drouin isnt worth 8OA. The Sabres already have Skinner. Olofsson and Kahun are also LWers


    Agreed that Drouin is not worth the 8th overall...and it isn't really close.
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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    If Buf offers that Deal , MTL accepts without a doubt... so it’s a bad trade for the sabres
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
    Anything not top5 in this year's draft is a prospect not yet ready for the NHL. Drouin is absolutely worth 8th overall. He had a bad 2020 but was a point/game player the first 24 games of the year and had strong moments in the playoffs, but overall more was expected.
    Drouin is definitely worth 8th Overall. I think this trade is fair.
    That being said I see Bergevin trying to hold onto Drouin next season to get him to play more with Suzuki. They plaid well together.


    A. Jake Sanderson may be NHL ready and available at 8.
    B. I have more faith in the forwards available at 8 than Drouin. He has never proven to be a top 6 forward
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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    WELP time to go make another which will probably be shat on by everyone looooooooooooooooooolohwell
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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    I mean their first rounder is kind of an overpayment but in a world where Eichel's acting like the owner of this team I could see it happen if the GM feels pressure from the captain and their owner. Clearly if there's one way to turn Drouin on it'd be to play with Eichel or another prime/elite center, Drouin was good when accompanied by an excellent center like McKinnon, TB didn't gave him Stamkos when he was there and Montreal didn't had pieces of that level (Suzuki could become one but not at the moment) on their team. All in all the trade offer's above value, I think Montreal at least gives them back St-Louis 2nd instead of a late third to at least be in the realm of real possibilities versus day dreaming.
    Sadly for Eichel, as long as Skinner isn't going back to his old form I can't see Buffalo being very competitive with 9M$ of dead weight. My two cents.
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    I mean their first overall is kind of an overpayment but in a world where Eichel's acting like the owner of this team I could see it happen if the GM feels pressure from the captain and their owner. Clearly if there's one way to turn Drouin on it'd be to play with Eichel or another prime/elite center, Drouin was good when accompanied by an excellent center like McKinnon, TB didn't gave him Stamkos when he was there and Montreal didn't had pieces of that level (Suzuki could become one but not at the moment) on their team. All in all the trade offer's above value, I think Montreal at least gives them back St-Louis 2nd instead of a late third to at least be in the realm of real possibilities versus day dreaming.
    Sadly for Eichel, as long as Skinner isn't going back to his old form I can't see Buffalo being very competitive with 9M$ of dead weight. My two cents.


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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    A. Jake Sanderson may be NHL ready and available at 8.
    B. I have more faith in the forwards available at 8 than Drouin. He has never proven to be a top 6 forward


    A. I agree, he may be, and I actually thought of saying top5 + him. But so few Dmen have been able to make and stay in the NHL at their draft year. I'm excited to see how Sanderson turns out.
    B. Buddy, he had 100 pts in his first 2 seasons (160 games) with Montreal. Is that bottom six production?
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rooney
    Miller is not worth a 2nd especially with the season he had and his cap hit. Winnipeg declines.


    True, but I could see the jets take a flyer on him for a lower price
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    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
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    Ask for Tatar & Mtl 1st (16OA) against Hutton + 1st (8OA)
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: AndrewLadd
    True, but I could see the jets take a flyer on him for a lower price


    As long as the price is right, I wouldn't be opposed to trying him out, although I do think there are better options in Free Agency for the Jets.
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
    A. I agree, he may be, and I actually thought of saying top5 + him. But so few Dmen have been able to make and stay in the NHL at their draft year. I'm excited to see how Sanderson turns out.
    B. Buddy, he had 100 pts in his first 2 seasons (160 games) with Montreal. Is that bottom six production?


    31 goals in 158 games in those 2 seasons. Drouin averages 16 goals a season, Skinner does that 1 season and everyone calls him $hit. Thats not the production I want out of a top 6 winger.
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rooney
    Miller is not worth a 2nd especially with the season he had and his cap hit. Winnipeg declines.


    This is a bad take.

    Quoting: Canucks_Fan69
    Who would you rather go for trading the 8th pick cuz Skinner's ass and sabers need another top six dood who ya got or do you just keep the picc and ruin my post entirely lololohwell


    Like put some more effort into it like what team would trade a first for drouin lmao
    And skinner is not ass
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
    Anything not top5 in this year's draft is a prospect not yet ready for the NHL. Drouin is absolutely worth 8th overall. He had a bad 2020 but was a point/game player the first 24 games of the year and had strong moments in the playoffs, but overall more was expected.
    Drouin is definitely worth 8th Overall. I think this trade is fair.
    That being said I see Bergevin trying to hold onto Drouin next season to get him to play more with Suzuki. They plaid well together.


    dont be daft. Drouin isn't even worth buf 2nd rd this year
    Aug. 24, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    dont be daft. Drouin isn't even worth buf 2nd rd this year


    You have no clue how to value draft picks. Just like the Sabres don't even know how to use them.
     
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