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Time to get hungry again

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 24, 2020
Published: Aug. 24, 2020
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I know a lot of people on this site will be down on having Bluegar as our 3C but I'm very high on him and he has pver achieved being the 4th line forward.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
3$2,200,000
4$3,400,000
2$1,250,000
1$800,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,250,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
2.
PIT
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Montour, Brandon [RFA Rights]
BUF
  1. McCann, Jared [RFA Rights]
4.
PIT
  1. 2021 4th round pick (DET)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,166,842$0$850,000$2,333,158
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,200,000$2,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:15 p.m.
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Dumo available?
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:15 p.m.
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Got fleeced in almost every deal
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Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Dumo available?


Nope
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Dumo available?


Anyone is available at the right price.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediocrity_Incoming
Anyone is available at the right price.


Buch strome and robertson for dumo and bjug?
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Got fleeced in almost every deal

Really? Montour excells at getting pucks out of the defensive zone and his corsi number are good for his limited production at Buffalo (also this past year not a single start in the offensive zone). Dermott is a good YOUNG defenseman who played really really well for toronto and is ready for a full time role. Bjugstad is a cap dump. And MM isnt worth much more than pool juice plus a mid third round pick.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Buch strome and robertson for dumo and bjug?


Strome as in Dylan strome from the hawks?
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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Strome as in Dylan strome from the hawks?


welp
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Buch strome and robertson for dumo and bjug?


Value is there but we don't need Strome or Buch and we probably don't trade with the Rangers
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediocrity_Incoming
Really? Montour excells at getting pucks out of the defensive zone and his corsi number are good for his limited production at Buffalo (also this past year not a single start in the offensive zone). Dermott is a good YOUNG defenseman who played really really well for toronto and is ready for a full time role. Bjugstad is a cap dump. And MM isnt worth much more than pool juice plus a mid third round pick.


Montour is atrocious at best analytically, and I doubt we'd have to pay to move jugs, but even if we did, certainly nothing remotely close to Hallander
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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Puljujarvi, 3rd for Murray. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

Dermott for Reese, Riikola, 4th. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

4th for Bjugstad, Hallander. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

$5.25x5 is bad for a sub-40 point, not physical, so-so defensive player,

Are you actually a Flyer fan or a Caps fan?
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Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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welp


Not too sure who you are offering i will say if dumo goes id need a left D back
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediocrity_Incoming
Really? Montour excells at getting pucks out of the defensive zone and his corsi number are good for his limited production at Buffalo (also this past year not a single start in the offensive zone). Dermott is a good YOUNG defenseman who played really really well for toronto and is ready for a full time role. Bjugstad is a cap dump. And MM isnt worth much more than pool juice plus a mid third round pick.


Bjugstad can be moved for a similar spare part or late pick, paying Hallander to move him is brutal. Montour's underlying analytics are pretty questionable and McCann is the wrong type of player to move as he's improved every season. I think Dermott is worth no more than a 3rd or 4th, ZAR is worth more as an analytics darling, even if I don't think he's that great. Prior goalie trades indicate Murray gets a better return
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Buch strome and robertson for dumo and bjug?


Not close. Dumo is one of the best defensive 2D's in the league and we really have nothing to replace him. Can't see him moving for anything other than an overpay
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Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediocrity_Incoming
Not too sure who you are offering i will say if dumo goes id need a left D back


Robertson is a really good young D prospect who has top 4 potential, great skater and instincts
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Puljujarvi, 3rd for Murray. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

Dermott for Reese, Riikola, 4th. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

4th for Bjugstad, Hallander. Absolutely horrible return for the Penguins.

$5.25x5 is bad for a sub-40 point, not physical, so-so defensive player,

Are you actually a Flyer fan or a Caps fan?


No are you sure you arent a troll? Cause Toffolli is gonna get at least 5x5 Montour is not bad analytically and has had a good rep in Anaheim. Pool juice can be a top 6 winger. And something evidently no other pens fan can get through their skull is that jugs is nothing more than a cap dump. And dermott will be the leafs best defenseman this year if they keep him.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Robertson is a really good young D prospect who has top 4 potential, great skater and instincts


He's at least two years from the NHL, so it makes no sense from our POV. Window is now
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Robertson is a really good young D prospect who has top 4 potential, great skater and instincts


but is he ready for the show now? Thats what i more or less meant.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.
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No are you sure you arent a troll? Cause Toffolli is gonna get at least 5x5 Montour is not bad analytically and has had a good rep in Anaheim. Pool juice can be a top 6 winger. And something evidently no other pens fan can get through their skull is that jugs is nothing more than a cap dump. And dermott will be the leafs best defenseman this year if they keep him.


No, I'm not a troll. I'm just a guy that actually thinks before I post.

If someone wants to grossly overpay Toffoli, then fine, but it won't be the Penguins.

I never mentioned Montour so what does that have to do with anything? 100% swing and miss.

What does Anaheim have to do with anything that I said? 100% swing and miss.

Puljujarvi can be a top-6 winger somewhere in Europe.

Bjugstad is quite good when not injured.

If Dermott is going to be Toronto's best defenseman, then you must expect them to have a really horrible D. Nearly as horrible as the return you have the Penguins getting in this AGM.

I'm just a guy that actually thinks before I post. What are you? (That's your que to stop talking)
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Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:42 p.m.
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No are you sure you arent a troll? Cause Toffolli is gonna get at least 5x5 Montour is not bad analytically and has had a good rep in Anaheim. Pool juice can be a top 6 winger. And something evidently no other pens fan can get through their skull is that jugs is nothing more than a cap dump. And dermott will be the leafs best defenseman this year if they keep him.


That Jugs trade is quite possibly one of the worst trades I’ve seen on this site
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:42 p.m.
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No, I'm not a troll. I'm just a guy that actually thinks before I post.

If someone wants to grossly overpay Toffoli, then fine, but it won't be the Penguins.

I never mentioned Montour so what does that have to do with anything? 100% swing and miss.

What does Anaheim have to do with anything that I said? 100% swing and miss.

Puljujarvi can be a top-6 winger somewhere in Europe.

Bjugstad is quite good when not injured.

If Dermott is going to be Toronto's best defenseman, then you must expect them to have a really horrible D. Nearly as horrible as the return you have the Penguins getting in this AGM.

I'm just a guy that actually thinks before I post. What are you? (That's your que to stop talking)


The only fair trade was McCann for Montour. Pens get absolutely fleeced in every other deal
Aug. 24, 2020 at 6:46 p.m.
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Wings won’t do Bjugstad and Hallinder for a 4th

But we will do Bjugstad for a 4th
Aug. 24, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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Anyone is available at the right price.


but if teams are incapable of justifying "paying the price" then the player is effectively unavailable.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.
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but if teams are incapable of justifying "paying the price" then the player is effectively unavailable.


True but if a GM isnt listening to every offer they arent doing theyre job. If the say the rangers were dumb enough to offer say Kakko+ for Dumo the pens would be idiotic to say no. Im willing to hear an offer before i say no is all.
 
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