5mil for Anderson seems a little too much...

I feel you but in MTL going up against BOS in our DIV I'm willing to pay extra for him. And he can score

Caufield can't be included in any Mantha deal. That trade would sting for a very long time

You forgot to add in this year's first, peohling and primeau to the wings deal. We aren't taking a cap dump, a lesser player and a decent prospect for mantha.

Relax bro. Mantha finally showed a flash at age 26 which could be a 1 and done, and you want the entire farm.

Tell that to the guy above

Then you don't get him, pretty simple, wings don't want to trade him unless you force us too by overpaying. So you can relax with your team and know mantha won't be apart of it without including the correct players

Domi and Caufield IS overpaying. Domi has eclipsed Mantha's numbers while playing for the crappy Yotes.

WPG says hell nah

That’s an extremely disingenuous comment. Mantha isn’t even 26 and has played at a high level the past year and half. Over his last 82 games (back to Jan 6 2019) he has 30G and 42A while playing on a historically bad team (worse than the Yotes you mentioned in another comment). Detroit fans don’t want to trade him yet Montreal fans keep making these ACGMs. You guys then proceed to bash Mantha while still wanting him and you proceed back to the first step of making yet another ACGM...

Cool man, keep your guys and wings will keep ours, it's that simple we aren't trading him unless it's a massive overpay

Disingenuous cause I got his age wrong?? he put up 72pts just like Domi did. I want Mantha cause of his size. MTL is closer right now to the "next" step and DET is still rebuilding. We can actually put him to use instead of rotting away in DET. Now because his size makes him more valuable to me I have to give something more but not Caufield more. But since I need to take the next step NOW, I can't wait for Caufield. For you Caufield is a perfect piece for your rebuild. So since IMO Domi and Caufield is an overpayment I'll dump cap on you cause you can absorb it. What you do with Alzner i couldn't care, bury him if you want. Byron you can give him an opportunity and put him in situations to thrive and then trade him when his stock is up. I don't bash players I just try to convince why by using actual facts why it's worth it for you to take the deal, name of the game.

Look at the amount of assets you have coming from Montreal. It is quantity for quality and there is no chance Winnipeg considers that deal. If you're asking for one of Winnipeg's untouchable players, you need to start by offering one of your untouchable players.

You said, “he showed a flash at age 26” I showed stats (actual facts) proving a high level of play for someone for a year and half while under 26. What you said was pure speculation not facts which I debunked. Unless you consider 1.5-2 years a flash our definition of the word is different. As to Domi’s production id think shooting 59% higher than your career average would inflate the numbers a little bit and I’d wager it was an outlier season. Mantha drives the line he plays on and that something an offensively inept team like Detroit needs. Not every team wants to sell their top players for futures and be in a constant rebuild. Some would like to retain them and use them for mentoring the prospects coming in.

If you want Mantha, Detroit would be interested in getting younger so we’d look at Suzuki, KK, Romanov, and Caufield but more so the former 3.

A yr and a half isn't enough of a track record to convince me that he'll be putting up those numbers during the rest of his prime years. And I'm not gonna try to convince you that Domi would also put up 70+ pt seasons for the next 5 yrs. No doubt his shooting% was an anomaly but he still put up 44 assists and even if he pots 20 goals/yr instead of 28 you can't deny that 65 pts out of him perennially is something to scoff at. He also drives play on his line and he can also play mutliple positions. Drouin is the best linemate he ever had and in which he played with consistently 2 yrs ago (72 pt season). This past yr Drouin missed 3 moths and coaching was juggling Domi's linemates all the time which they all happened to be 3rd liners so it can explain the drop in production. So from my point of view I'm giving up a guy who can put up similar points as Mantha if given the minutes and linemates Mantha is given. He's also a freaking savage and will take on anyone. And I'm giving up Caufield who is supposed to be an upgraded version of Debrincat. His performance in NCAA don't indicate any regression to his stock value or hype. I hope you see from my point of view why I believe it's a fair trade when I include cap dumps. If you didn't have the cap space I wouldnt even bother with this proposition.

That’s fine and not what I had issue with like I said, “flash” and 26 years old. I think 1.5 years of track record speaks for itself and don’t want to move him unless we are getting a true center back (Suzuki or KK potentially could be) or high-end picks but ideally Suzuki since he could contribute sooner.