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What is the Value of Joonas Koorpisalo

Created by: bass8151
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 27, 2020
Published: Aug. 27, 2020
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With the report from TSN1040 Vancouver I am curious what it would take for the Hurricanes to trade for Joonas Korpisalo. I have added the tweet that I saw which had the now deleted tweet https://twitter.com/NHLColumbus/status/1298641689821818880?s=20
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
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After these playoffs, I would say huge.
Edit : Especially with this contract.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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His trade value is big but his performance was massively inflated by Columbus' style of play. Same thing happened with Bobrovsky and now he's an average/below average goalie in Florida.

Merzlikins was considered an average goalie prospect and then his numbers were way higher than expected. Once again this was due to Columbus' defense.

The 2020 1st (13OA) probably gets him.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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After these playoffs, I would say huge.
Edit : Especially with this contract.


I think that is fair, the contract value is huge, but I am also curious if other gms will show that defense style props up their numbers and shows bobrobski? Its an interesting train of thought about him. He will make this goalie market super interesting
Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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They probably ask for #13
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:54 a.m.
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His trade value is big but his performance was massively inflated by Columbus' style of play. Same thing happened with Bobrovsky and now he's an average/below average goalie in Florida.

Merzlikins was considered an average goalie prospect and then his numbers were way higher than expected. Once again this was due to Columbus' defense.

The 2020 1st (13OA) probably gets him.


That is a fair assessment, I do wonder how many teams will look him off because of the team defense and worry they would trade assets for him and have it backfire like bob in FLA
Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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That is a fair assessment, I do wonder how many teams will look him off because of the team defense and worry they would trade assets for him and have it backfire like bob in FLA


Well he's not gonna come cheap. CBJ have no reason to trade him.

I think it will backfire.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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Well he's not gonna come cheap. CBJ have no reason to trade him.

I think it will backfire.


Oh no I completely agree. They hold all of the cards in this situation, and honestly its a high risk reward trade for teams, they are putting a lot of money and assets that he is good on a less defensive system other teams run.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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Well if Matt Murray is getting a 1st and an A+ prospect, Id have to assume Koorpi is worth McDavid on that scale
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
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Well if Matt Murray is getting a 1st and an A+ prospect, Id have to assume Koorpi is worth McDavid on that scale


Well what Murray gets is really going to depend because if the Pens get a 1st and an A+ prospect it means that GMJR will probably throw in Malkin Letang and every first round pick for the rest of time
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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That is a fair assessment, I do wonder how many teams will look him off because of the team defense and worry they would trade assets for him and have it backfire like bob in FLA


Not going to argue that it could end poorly, but Re: Bob...I mean, looking at the advanced stats, Bob's last season in Columbus was pretty much league average (yet for some reason he finished 9th in Vezina voting...probably the shutouts). The fact that he had 9 shutouts absolutely had to do with the teams strong D, but the fact that only 50% of his starts were quality starts shows that there were red flags everywhere. Can't help it if Florida's management/ownership bid against themselves to drive up his price.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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Columbus really has no interest in moving Korpisalo and if we did we probably ask for Trocheck or a solid 2nd line center. We don’t have to move him and with Merzlinkins being exempt from the expansion draft Korpisalo is the goalie we’d protect.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.
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Not going to argue that it could end poorly, but Re: Bob...I mean, looking at the advanced stats, Bob's last season in Columbus was pretty much league average (yet for some reason he finished 9th in Vezina voting...probably the shutouts). The fact that he had 9 shutouts absolutely had to do with the teams strong D, but the fact that only 50% of his starts were quality starts shows that there were red flags everywhere. Can't help it if Florida's management/ownership bid against themselves to drive up his price.


I wasnt too aware of his advance stats cause I know sometimes advance stats with goalies can be a tad bit misleading, I think everyone knew that FLA overpaid heavily for Bobrobsky and the goalies on the market reaping the results of what comes in a flat cap after that season.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.
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Columbus really has no interest in moving Korpisalo and if we did we probably ask for Trocheck or a solid 2nd line center. We don’t have to move him and with Merzlinkins being exempt from the expansion draft Korpisalo is the goalie we’d protect.


Especially an in-division trade... can't see him going to the Canes without an absolutely massive haul coming back.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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Columbus really has no interest in moving Korpisalo and if we did we probably ask for Trocheck or a solid 2nd line center. We don’t have to move him and with Merzlinkins being exempt from the expansion draft Korpisalo is the goalie we’d protect.


I thought it was weird that they would even consider it in order to keep that tandem together, and CBJ really does have full control here it plays to the in an amazing sense, I think that it will come down to a good forward having to go there for sure.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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I thought it was weird that they would even consider it in order to keep that tandem together, and CBJ really does have full control here it plays to the in an amazing sense, I think that it will come down to a good forward having to go there for sure.


It’s also if management thinks they’ve figured out which goalie is better.

Also don’t read a ton into the styles of play, Philadelphia, Ny Islanders and Arizona all tend to play a very defensive game like Columbus does. So does that mean Hart and Korpisalo are the same level based on the team in front of them? The correct answer is no, Hart is a better goalie.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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It’s also if management thinks they’ve figured out which goalie is better.

Also don’t read a ton into the styles of play, Philadelphia, Ny Islanders and Arizona all tend to play a very defensive game like Columbus does. So does that mean Hart and Korpisalo are the same level based on the team in front of them? The correct answer is no, Hart is a better goalie.


I think that is a fair point for sure, I wont say that he will be good or bad, I am just curious about how that factors in, I think he will be good for any team that gets him and the contract value for what he is will drive value a lot as well for what the cap will look like next season.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:20 p.m.
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Right now? A kings ransom.

There are several other capable goaltenders that Carolina should be targeting instead.
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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Right now? A kings ransom.

There are several other capable goaltenders that Carolina should be targeting instead.


I agree, I personally think the canes should be targeting someone like Lehner or even Anderson cause I think they can take them much further.
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Not worth remotely close to what he'd cost, especially with 2 competent platoon guys already (who were both better on the regular season) and the extreme volatility of the goalie position, I think CAR is fine with never having that long term solution in net and just always finding a few platoon guys to start 40 games and hopefully 1 gets hot during the playoffs (and with 2 goalies that's more likely than 1 extremely low end starter in Korpi)
Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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I wasnt too aware of his advance stats cause I know sometimes advance stats with goalies can be a tad bit misleading, I think everyone knew that FLA overpaid heavily for Bobrobsky and the goalies on the market reaping the results of what comes in a flat cap after that season.


Yeah, they were pretty unspectacular. I hope, when we all get hired as NHL GM's, that we've learned that spending 1/8th of your cap space on a 30+ year old goalie is probably not the smartest move, especially when there are very few other suitors for that goalies services...
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Aug. 27, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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