You're a little hard. No way Tatar + Suzuki + Norlinder isn't a+.
Domi vs Galchenyuk should be at least A imo. Galchenyuk is getting nowhere and we will soon get a nice return for Domi.
Weber for Subban is probably a B+. We got the best leader in the league for a team in rebuild, he's less expensive and plays way better. Doesn't seem to slow down for now.
Danault + Romanov for Weise and Fleischmann... I'm still laughing.

Not bad, not bad

I would say the Pacioretti trade worked out for Vegas just as good as it did for Montreal. I mean Suzuki is doing great and Tatar is not bad either, but also, Vegas will go to another round in the playoffs and Pacioretti is a key piece there. So I don't think they regret that trade either. Montreal is just rebuilding and Vegas is not.

Rather solid analysis, but there is one thing that makes me go hmmm...

"2 picks, one being a 2nd for a guy [Scandella] who normally would slot as a 6/7th D on most teams"

I agree that Bergy did well to grab a decent pick+ for a pending RFA. However, he partnered Parayko on the defending champs/West leaders, so maybe the Habs just didn't get the most out of him.

I think the Pacioretty trade worked for both parties. He's an absolute machine for Vegas and if he helps them win the cup this year, I might even side with Vegas on that one tbh . Tatar at the time was terrible and a healthy scratch in the playoffs. The extension to pacioretty is key here

Think the Weber and Domi trades deserve higher grades.

Also we traded Shaw back to Chicago recouping one of those picks so didnt turn out horrible.

I still think it was an overpayment. I like Scandella but 2 months before this, you could have got him from buffalo for a late round pick

I gave the 2nd Shaw trade an A.
But don't forget the first Shaw trade got the Hawks a 40 goal scorer

It can work for both sides while still being an A+ for the habs. Vegas overpaid, but Pacioretty was a great addition who can help get them a cup. Montreal got an absolutely amazing return for Pacioretty.

I think it was fair value for Pacioretty. A lot of people forget just how much he carried the Habs offence.
This was the proper return for a player of his caliber

The Domi & Weber trades are definitely too low. IMO Sergachev is very overrated, and while he could be a really good player, it hardly seems fair to rate it as a D when Drouin is the better player right now.

Drouin is not the better player right now. Sergachev would have been the best addition to your D core (especially on an ELC with team control).
Drouin has never been consistent on the Habs. In these playoffs alone Sergachev has been a machine

I'll agree with you for Weber. But if he doesn't retire and regresses, you're stuck with a massive cap hit

He’s an amazing player, and one of my favourites to ever wear the habs Jersey. But a return of Suzuki (who will end up as a better player than Patches), a consistent 25 goal scorer, and a pick that nets the other team an extremely talented prospect is an overpayment. While I know that it wasn’t necessarily much of an overpayment at the time of you consider the 2nd as incentive to take on Tatar, in hindsight it would’ve been better asset management to not make the deal. But like I said, while what they gave up has more value than what they got, it’s all worth it if Pacioretty helps them win a cup.

Can't look at draft picks like that. Montreal didn't trade DeBrincat, they traded the pick that Chicago used on him. If Montreal used that same pick, they likely pick someone else. The same way you didn't call out Norlinder or Romanov as huge parts of their trades.

I still can't believe an expansion team got Mark Stone and Pacioretty right out the gate.
They also have Cody Glass so Suzuki was good trade asset for them

Okay, but two months earlier, J-Bo hadn't nearly died on the bench. And I know it was an overpay, but this is how the deadline deals go. It was a cup-chasing matter at the time. I'm not going to criticize Army for pulling that trigger.

Now, signing Scandy to a juicy four-year deal after a dozen good games in the Bluenote is another story...

Weber's contract dives in salary. What cash strapped team wouldn't want $7+ million in cap, while only spending a couple million? Even if he regresses, his leadership is well worth that contract for a cheap team (Ottawa for example).

But it's still overpayment. You 100% need to look at trades like that.
Romanov and Norlinder are still unknowns with zero games of NHL experience right now

Both teams probably look at it as an A+ for themselves. Which is probably the best outcome. There is no embarrassment, and they can continue being trade partners.

Let's say he regresses at 37-38. That still leaves 4 years of a 7 mil cap hit.
I don't even think a team like Ottawa wants that on their books regardless of salary cap. They're going to have to pay guys at some point too.

I'm looking at it from the Habs perspective. Value was good.
I get the cup chasing scenario, Pens did something similar with Ron Hainsey and they won

I guess I just liked Shaw then. Because I thought he brought enough value for 2x2nd. Chicago hitting a homerun with that pick shouldn't matter.

At that point isn't he making $1M? That's chump change, play him on your 3rd pairing with a rookie


Also, Ottawa doesn't have to pay players, haven't you been paying attention? There is a reason why they have such a solid prospect pool, they traded every star they had from a few years ago.

Sergachev is playing very sheltered minutes on one of the best teams in the NHL. Sure he put up some points in the regular season, but if you watch the Lightning in the playoffs, he doesn’t have much effect on the outcome of the game one way or another. 40% of his points are on the PP, and he’s obviously not a defensive stalwart. While I do think that if Mikhail improves this could end up as a bad deal for the habs, I don’t see anything (yet) that makes me regret the trade at all.

You’re not giving MB enough credit for getting rid of PK Subban. Weber’s deal isn’t bad, and if he ends up slightly overpaid for a year or two, it’s not the end of the world. I’d certainly rather have the good and the bad of Weber instead of the bad and the bad of Subban.

Edit: Added in the “yet”.

Guess it's more to each their own.
I didn't find Shaw worth that much. Especially if the team just moved one of their best C's to acquire 1 of those 2nds

I think we see it differently.
I don't think Subban would have regressed like this on Montreal. He fit the system well and was a great offensive dman.

Sergachev is also 3rd pair because of the talent in front of him blocking him from moving up.
Columbus series Sergachev was an absolute beast making great defensive plays to save his team. He is 100% noticeable and will only get better from here.
He is also not being rushed because there's no need to. He's got a better chance of hitting his ceiling like this as he gets to learn the game at a better pace learning from the likes of Victor Hedman and McD.