not moving miller and a 1st in the same deal, also would swap chychrun with serge, and the 4th line should be lemieux howden justin richards

Don't know too much about him, is he that good?

Miller has more upside than Chychrun. I don't see the org trading Miller unless they're given an offer they can't refuse.

Richards? I looked him up after a ducks fan asked for him in a trade, he was basically the patrice bergeron of college hockey

only players I trade him for are hedman, slavin and lindholm in 2021 with an extension

I meant Chych but that's good to know as well.

I wanna see him grow into our guy on his own. I don't think that even Hedman inspires me to move Miller.

Oh lol chychrun is really good, hes extremely poised and rarely makes mistakes, hes an absolute unit, blocks shots and is mobile, plays all situations, eats minutes, can partner well with an offensive guy like trouba, and best of all is on an amazing deal, honestly have no idea how he wasn't a lottery pick he was the best Dman in his class at the time and is still one of the best



Thats insanity, how would the best Dman in the world not peak your interest?

That he's pushing on 30, will decline in the not so distant future, and has trouble playing a full season. I'm not in such a hurry to contend that I wouldn't give Miller a fair shot after trading to move up to get him.

hes played 70 games in 4 of the last 5 years and this year played 66, hes one of the most cerebral Dmen in the game so his decline will be incredibly slow, think chara, if hes on the table I throw everything I can at the bolts

Miller has more upside than Chychrun Lmao Chychrun is an already established top 4 defensemen in the league that is already starting to turn elite and he's only 22 that was already on pace to score 15 goals

I wouldn't include Miller. There's a lot I wouldn't include in a trade for a high cost 30yo D man when we're still a few years out from really contending.

A norris winner under 8 is a bargain, and he makes us an instant contender

He's impressive when he's not on LTIR. Not a bad word to say about him aside from that. But I still think Miller is regarded as a player who is poised to develop into a potential top pair guy.

maybe to pundits, but hockey doesn't work that way.

Victor hedman does work that way

How far does McDavid move the needle in Edmonton? Not saying Hedman isn't good. Just that one player can only do so much in a sport like hockey.

well we have other players unlike edmonton

not if you gave them up for hedman.

Even if you add OEL to that trade, Miller still has the most value in that trade. ADA for chychrun one for one is close to being fair