Quoting: Paul13
Not sure where you get your rumors but Guerin watches and understands hockey, that Wild trade is total garbage.
Quoting: C21
Yeah, no.
Break down how you value this trade. Cause I think if you do that you'll realize how terrible it is.
But, before we break it down, let's just look at the top 2 pieces of this trade from the Wild's perspective, Brodin & Murray:
The Wild don't need to make any goalie trades & if they're moving Brodin it's for a massive package or a 1C/potential 1C
Now the value:
Brodin >> Murray, it's a shutdown Dman vs a gamble at G who reportedly wants an outrageous contract
3rd > Bjugstad & 5th, a homecoming doesn't meaning squat if he doesn't have a clear spot. And that's no reason for the Wild to do the pens (a team they want to suck) a favour.
Dubnyk >> Johnson, not only is Dubnyk more valuable than Johnson, the Wild might actually have a spot for him. Yeah, they'll take the more useful player on the better contract every day of the week
Murray/Jarry to Minny has been a rumor for months. The original Zucker trade included JJ and Jarry. Guerin was with Pens before, likes JJ and Murray/Jarry. Guerin said they are not happy with goaltending and they want/need to upgrade this offseason.
Now to value:
Prime aged elite RFA 2-time Cup winning goalie >>>>>>>>> Top 4 Shutdown D on expiring contract
Johnson/Dubnyk is a wash. Johnson as 3rd pairing D is fine. Dubnyk sucked last year. You`re welcome for taking him without retained salary.
Bjugstad and a 5th for a 3rd? You do realize Barclay Goodrow got a 1st round pick right? Bjugstad is bigger, better and has more potential than him. His injury concerns are overblown. Guerin would also understand this from his time in Pitt.
I`m quite certain that this is very similar to what the trade will look like. And I do think that this is the team Murray/Jarry will go to based on rumors, GM-GM relationship and fit for all players involved. This is real life eh? Sorry this isn`t GM mode and trades are defined by little bars of made of value. Even though I think this trade would probably go through on there as well.
We`ll see. Give it a couple weeks.