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(STL/MTL) - Allen and 2022 7th RD pick for 2020 3rd RD pick and 2020 7th RD pick

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Sep 2 at 12:24
#1
Trade confirmed: Montreal Canadiens - St. Louis Blues
Trade Details
Montreal Canadiens Acquire:
Montreal Canadiens
2022 7th round pick (STL)
St. Louis Blues Acquire:
St. Louis Blues
2020 3rd round pick (WSH - #87)
2020 7th round pick (CHI - #203)
Sep 2 at 12:26
#2
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MASSIVE W!!

We used what we got from Kovalchuk to get Allen. Pretty much getting Allen for free. Thank you again St.Louis
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Sep 2 at 12:26
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NoMansonMurphyDumba
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2020 picks are very valuable. I think St. Louis won by a tiny bit
Sep 2 at 12:26
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KIVI IS THE GOAT
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A win-win trade in my opinion.
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Sep 2 at 12:27
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Carey Price is definitely dancing after this trade Bergy finally gets a good backup for him
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Sep 2 at 12:27
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Gives the Blues breathing room. Gives the Habs another backup goaltender.

Good trade.
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Sep 2 at 12:27
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Great deal for both teams. Blues get cap space to re-sign Pietrangelo and the habs get a solid backup for cheap.
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Sep 2 at 12:28
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Habs finally get a good backup while Blues make room for Pietrangelo. A win-win trade
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Sep 2 at 12:28
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Quoting: keep_ups12
2020 picks are very valuable. I think St. Louis won by a tiny bit


They got a 3rd round pick for a goalie that put up a .927 this year. Montreal gave up the pick they got for signing Kovalchuk and trading him a month later. It's a clear W for MTL
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Sep 2 at 12:28
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Quoting: justaBoss
A win-win trade in my opinion.


St.Louis got rid of their better goalie and still doesn't have the cap to sign Pietrangelo, there isn't a good POV from the Blues
Sep 2 at 12:28
#11
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Good for both teams.

Allen/Price is tantalizing especially considering what price did with a little rest
Sep 2 at 12:28
#12
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Edited Sep 2 at 12:35
Allen was very good last year but you gotta think that MTL could have gotten him for less, or even negative value due to cap circumstances.

If I were a Habs fan, I'd be worried about this. Tying up 15 mil in goaltenders is a poor use of cap (spare me the obvious jokes) and this means they won't be spending money on parts of the roster they need to improve to be a consistant playoff team.

Honestly I think this is a lose-lose trade. MTL paid too much for too little value (backups don't contribute much) and STL lost their better goalie.
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Sep 2 at 12:29
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Quoting: HabsForEver
They got a 3rd round pick for a goalie that put up a .927 this year. Montreal gave up the pick they got for sign Kovalchuk and trading him a month later. It's a clear W for MTL


yes the Kovalchuk trade is a W. I really like this for St. Louis
Sep 2 at 12:29
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Massive win for blues. Shedding cap space to resign Pietrangelo and also getting a 3rd in a deep draft.
Sep 2 at 12:30
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Solid deal for MTL as their not really in cap trouble. Allen could be a solid “Halak/Khudobin” behind Price allowing him to stay fresh.
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Sep 2 at 12:30
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I don't think Montreal spends enough on goaltending.
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Sep 2 at 12:30
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Quoting: HabsForEver
They got a 3rd round pick for a goalie that put up a .927 this year. Montreal gave up the pick they got for sign Kovalchuk and trading him a month later. It's a clear W for MTL


Montreal probably wins when you look at it 5 years down the road, but the Blues really needed that cap space to have a chance at resigning their captain. Win-win.
Sep 2 at 12:30
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KIVI IS THE GOAT
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Quoting: HabsForEver
St.Louis got rid of their better goalie and still doesn't have the cap to sign Pietrangelo, there isn't a good POV from the Blues


I believe they're not quite done yet with the moves.

At the very least they covered all the money necessary to re-sign Dunn.
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Sep 2 at 12:30
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Quoting: Random2152
Allen was very good last year but you gotta think that MTL could have gotten him for less, or even negative value due to cap circumstances.

If I were a Habs fan, I'd be worried about this. Tying up 15 mil in goaltenders is a poor use of cap (spare me the obvious jokes) and this means they won't be spending money on parts of the roster they need to improve to be a consistant playoff team.


If you look up his stats from last year, he was St.Louis best goaltender and only has 1 year left on his contract. Montreal still has 14 Million in cap space and only has to pay Domi. We still have space to make other improvements.
Sep 2 at 12:31
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Quoting: hoshii96
Montreal probably wins when you look at it 5 years down the road, but the Blues really needed that cap space to have a chance at resigning their captain. Win-win.


It would make more sense if this actually allowed to Blue to resign Pietrangelo, but they still only have about 6 Million in cap space and still have to resign Dunn.
Sep 2 at 12:33
#21
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Quoting: HabsForEver
If you look up his stats from last year, he was St.Louis best goaltender and only has 1 year left on his contract. Montreal still has 14 Million in cap space and only has to pay Domi. We still have space to make other improvements.


I'm aware, I still think you could have gotten him for less, and this does remove your ability to improve the roster elsewhere to an extent. There are plenty of players other teams would have paid you to take that could contribute more than Allen could, and now you have 4 mil less to do so

Never, ever pay for goalies. There is literally no correlation between how much you pay for how much you get, and MTL are paying nearly 20% of the cap in goalies
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Sep 2 at 12:37
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Quoting: Random2152
I'm aware, I still think you could have gotten him for less, and this does remove your ability to improve the roster elsewhere to an extent. There are plenty of players other teams would have paid you to take that could contribute more than Allen could, and now you have 4 mil less to do so

Never, ever pay for goalies. There is literally no correlation between how much you pay for how much you get, and MTL are paying nearly 20% of the cap in goalies


There is no correlation, but there are stats to back up that Allen can actually play the position of goaltending, meaning that Price doesn't have to play 70+ games a year.
Sep 2 at 12:39
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Quoting: HabsForEver
It would make more sense if this actually allowed to Blue to resign Pietrangelo, but they still only have about 6 Million in cap space and still have to resign Dunn.


They're not done yet. Steen and/or Bozak will be gone soon
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Sep 2 at 12:39
#24
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Quoting: HabsForEver
There is no correlation, but there are stats to back up that Allen can actually play the position of goaltending, meaning that Price doesn't have to play 70+ games a year.


Yeah, and you're paying them 15 mil. Do you really not see the problem here? If you don't I never want to hear you **** about the Leafs contracts ever again.
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Sep 2 at 12:41
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Quoting: Random2152
Yeah, and you're paying them 15 mil. Do you really not see the problem here? If you don't I never want to hear you **** about the Leafs contracts ever again.


It doesn't matter about how much we are paying them when we have tons of cap space to make other moves. This doesn't handicap us in the slightest. Leafs are a completely different story.
 
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