Parayko-hear me out

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Created by: job

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 2, 2020

Published: Sep. 2, 2020

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

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Okay, hear me out

Blues want to sign Pietrangelo and have already started clearing space (Jake Allen trade). They still need more space, can't trade Justin Faulk (NMC) and can't really afford/doesn't make sense to have 3 expensive RDs

Blues get 3 young cost-controlled players back.

It may seem like a low return, but remember 1) they need cap space; 2) they would otherwise let Pietrangelo go for free; 3) Parayko only has 2 years left which means he would need to be protected for expansion draft and then can go to UFA that next season

Open to other suggestions that are fair for Parayko (not Nylander cause we've already seen his value is low)

Trades

TOR

Parayko, Colton

STL

Engvall, Pierre
Johnsson, Andreas
Petan, Nicolas
2020 1st round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
16	$81,500,000	$75,299,783	$0	$0	$6,200,217

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366 RW, LW UFA - 4
	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
	Brooks, Adam $725,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4		Campbell, Jack $1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167 LD RFA - 2
Rosén, Calle $750,000 LD UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin $700,000 LD UFA - 1
Parayko, Colton $5,500,000 RD UFA - 2

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

Salzy

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You might get his skate laces for that, how is his value low? because he would make the leafs better? STL doesnt listen if Nylander/Marner isnt involved

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

BigOaf69

Banned

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this isn't the WHL, Brooks STINKS

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

chungus

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I heard you out.

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No.

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

mondo

torontos finest

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very cool

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

AndrewLadd

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Just because they’re cost controlled doesn’t mean they’re good

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

mondo

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i've created a better parayko trade here: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/359106

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

mokumboi

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I've heard you out. You cannot be serious with this offer.

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

Jangle29

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This is a straight dog **** return

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

ChiHawk

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Your justification doesn't equate to thinking the Blues move him for cheap. Just because a team needs cap space, doesn't mean the players value drops much if any.

Additionally, without any retention, Johnsson is not worth more then a 3rd round pick if the Leafs are lucky and more likely a 4th.

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.

#10

Jangle29

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I can't see a deal with Parayko not including Nylander

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.

#11

TheEarthmaster

Good Opinion Haver

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You did just see us get a third round pick for our goalie right? Even though teams knew we were up against it and the goalie market is flooded with options?

We will get fair value for Parayko and that ain't it. Plus it doesn't alleviate any cap issues, really, as Johnsson+Dermott will only be about a million less (if we're lucky) than Parayko

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.

#12

LGBstl

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change Brooks to TORs 1st and the conversation can at least start.. The main issue is that the only piece TOR people seem to want to move is Johnsson and the Blues really have no real need for a depth winger. Dermott and a 1st are nice pieces but Parayko at 5.5 mil for two more years is MUCH nicer.

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:52 p.m.

#13

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Faulk can play left side the only question is does dunn want to play a 3rd pair dman position

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.

#14

littlejerryseinfeld

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one of the worst non troll trades ive ever seen on here

and i lived through the carrick, a 1st and bracco for doughty offseason

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.

#15

Shylo_Moxii

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Blues don't need cost controlled players they need Value. Good Value and you aren't giving it here. This is the reason why I said I am not interested in a deal with Toronto anymore because all Toronto wants to offer for Parayko is spare parts, and Blues don't want there great marquee players either because they are so expensive. We can trade Tyler Bozak and we would have enough for Pietrangelo, and maybe getting Steen out helps. Gunnarsson is already gone, so at this point Dunn is 2-3 million on a bridge. It's not that deep we don't need to use Parayko as a cap relief, same with dunn. Bozak and Steen are cap relief.

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

#16

Jangle29

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1st Johnsson and Liljegren and I think St Louis starts to listen. It even then what's the point when you factor in paying Pietrangelo 3-4 mil more than Parayko

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

#17

mokumboi

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Quoting: Jangle29

I can't see a deal with Parayko...

That will suffice, no qualifiers needed.

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

#18

redwingsfan04

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Or they could trade him somewhere else for triple the return...

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.

#19

C21

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I heard you put & it made sense until I actually saw the return. Jesus that's bad

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.

#20

Jangle29

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Quoting: mokumboi

That will suffice, no qualifiers needed.

They would be crazy not to move him when a team decides to massively overpay for him this summer. Could happen

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.

#21

mokumboi

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Quoting: Jangle29

They would be crazy not to move him when a team decides to massively overpay for him this summer. Could happen

Crazy, huh? My friend, you are drunk on wishful thinking. Let it go already. He's not available, and by your own logic, he just got a lot less available.

Sep. 2, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.

#22

JAKS_7

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As a Leafs fan, this isn’t anywhere close. Parayko would cost at least Nylander or a package that include’s the 15th OA pick.

Sep. 2, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

#23

AJM2466

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blues probably buy out steen and it might also help that Tarasenko could be on LTIR for quite some time. if they really want to keep pietro, they can do it without clearing paraykos contract. the issue is probably more related to contract structure as opposed to cap hit. I'm not sure how cash wealthy or poor STL is, but i assume they would not want to give out a huge front loaded SB heavy contract which he probably wants. I dont think im gonna comment on the trade because everythings been said already

Sep. 2, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.

#24

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

Just because they’re cost controlled doesn’t mean they’re good

Yeah "cost control" is a little misleading when Nic Petan is making like 900K or something to play in the Minors.

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

#25

Turner33

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That's just a really bad offer. If the Blues placed parayko on the block 20 teams will offer a ton to land him

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