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From Trades I Saw - Unrealistic Cap

Created by: chrisdouglasavs19
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 4, 2020
Published: Sep. 4, 2020
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
I know not realistic when we need to resign people, just wanted to see the other side of trade I saw.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mete, Victor2$2,500,000
Burakovsky, André3$4,500,000
Nichushkin, Valeri2$2,000,000
O'Connor, Logan1$950,000
Zadorov, Nikita2$3,800,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
FLA
  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
MTL
  1. Donskoi, Joonas
  2. Graves, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Ian Cole: $800,000 (19%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$82,235,595$0$2,650,000-$735,595

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 3
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Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Huberdeau, Jonathan
$5,900,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nichushkin, Valeri
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 3
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Burakovsky, André
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Bowers, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
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Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
Mete, Victor
$2,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
UFA - 1
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Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Cole, Ian
$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Zadorov, Nikita
$3,800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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O'Connor, Logan
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Timmins, Conor
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Landeskog, G.
MacKinnon, N.
Rantanen, M.
Huberdeau, J.
Makar, C.
Power Play 2
Drouin, J.
Kadri, N.
Burakovsky, A.
Girard, S.
Compher, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Calvert, M.
Nichushkin, V.
Mete, V.
Johnson, E.
Penalty Kill 2
Bellemare, P.
Compher, J.
Cole, I.
Zadorov, N.

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Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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Florida probably declines but it's not insulting. Replace the 1st with something more valuable like Kaut (not Newhook, that'd be an overpay).
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:09 a.m.
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Decent offer for Huberdeau but agreed it would take another premium piece (overpay) in order to really interest the Cats
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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Huge no on Drouin and Mete. Neither player is a good fit on this team.

Also can't be trading away both Byram and Graves.

I feel less inclined to move Byram after seeing our D group this playoff year. I think we're going to need him going forwards.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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The Avs are not trading Byram he is part of the Avs untouchable Corp. acquiring Huberdeau is also tantamount to either letting Landeskog go or acknowledging that Huberdeau is going to walk in 3 years because how exactly would they sign MacKinnon and Huberdeau in the same off season? Also with Timmins almost assuredly suffering a concussion the other night there is ZERO chance the Avs trade their only healthy NHL d prospect? Not to rag on your first post but you crushed the Avs defensively. Huberdeau is kinda soft, Drouin is wreck defensively and Mete and Girard on the same d-corp? Talk about zero size.
Good effort though.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:22 a.m.
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Huge no on Drouin and Mete. Neither player is a good fit on this team.

Also can't be trading away both Byram and Graves.

I feel less inclined to move Byram after seeing our D group this playoff year. I think we're going to need him going forwards.

Byram is going to be a stud, he just turned 19 and in short order will be at no worse the Avs 2nd best dman. Byram and Makar together as a pairing you don’t want to trade that. Also did you see Timmins get smoked, can’t imagine a situation where he doesn’t have a concussion.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:22 a.m.
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Sorry this aint it chief
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:22 a.m.
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The Avs are not trading Byram he is part of the Avs untouchable Corp. acquiring Huberdeau is also tantamount to either letting Landeskog go or acknowledging that Huberdeau is going to walk in 3 years because how exactly would they sign MacKinnon and Huberdeau in the same off season? Also with Timmins almost assuredly suffering a concussion the other night there is ZERO chance the Avs trade their only healthy NHL d prospect? Not to rag on your first post but you crushed the Avs defensively. Huberdeau is kinda soft, Drouin is wreck defensively and Mete and Girard on the same d-corp? Talk about zero size.
Good effort though.


Why aren't you an NHL GM yet.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:31 a.m.
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Why aren't you an NHL GM yet.


Ok smart ass, which part of my critique do you have a problem with? Byram was drafted 4th overall for a reason. He is 19. He is the best d prospect not just on the Avs but in the league. Huberdeau’s contract expires the same time as MacKinnon’s. How are you fitting at a minimum $9M winger and $12-14M center under the cap in the same off season? Drouin doesn’t play defense. Mete is 5’9” and can’t crack MTL top 4, yet after trading Byram you’re trading Graves a top 4 established dman and Makar’s partner.

What in any of that isn’t fact or at least considered a consensus fact? Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I gave an honest critique imo, that any fan with access to the internet (which you have) would have probably come to with a little light reading.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:32 a.m.
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Ok smart ass, which part of my critique do you have a problem with? Byram was drafted 4th overall for a reason. He is 19. He is the best d prospect not just on the Avs but in the league. Huberdeau’s contract expires the same time as MacKinnon’s. How are you fitting at a minimum $9M winger and $12-14M center under the cap in the same off season? Drouin doesn’t play defense. Mete is 5’9” and can’t crack MTL top 4, yet after trading Byram you’re trading Graves a top 4 established dman and Makar’s partner.

What in any of that isn’t fact or at least considered a consensus fact? Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I gave an honest critique imo, that any fan with access to the internet (which you have) would have probably come to with a little light reading.


Why you so offended, I was complementing your analysis.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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The Avs are not trading Byram he is part of the Avs untouchable Corp. acquiring Huberdeau is also tantamount to either letting Landeskog go or acknowledging that Huberdeau is going to walk in 3 years because how exactly would they sign MacKinnon and Huberdeau in the same off season? Also with Timmins almost assuredly suffering a concussion the other night there is ZERO chance the Avs trade their only healthy NHL d prospect? Not to rag on your first post but you crushed the Avs defensively. Huberdeau is kinda soft, Drouin is wreck defensively and Mete and Girard on the same d-corp? Talk about zero size.
Good effort though.


Going all-in on 3 years at the cost of our future also opens up the possibility that Mackinnon will want to go elsewhere in 2023. We need to actually have a competitive roster for him to want to resign. Needless to say I think we need to hold on to Byram.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 9:38 a.m.
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Why you so offended, I was complementing your analysis.


I thought you were being a smart ass. My apologies, haven’t had breakfast yet.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Habs decline
 
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