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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 4, 2020
Published: Sep. 4, 2020
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I think there are a couple things that have to happen in order for colorado to pursue something like this.
1. Timmins has another concussion, which is very possible, he looked like he was out for a couple seconds when he went down last game.
2. Detroit drafts Jamie Drysdale, giving them a surplus of young RHD in Seider, Hronek, Drysdale.

I am not sure the exact value of the RHD for detroit so it's just 1 for 1 right now i assume something would need to be added somewhere to make this work.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
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Hronek is a cost-controlled asset that Detroit won't give up unless you provide more value than that.

Def a good notion though if they plan of drafting Drysdale.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
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I think Yzerman would want someone along the lines of Newhook or Byram for Hronek. Maybe not 1 for 1, but Hronek has become extremely valuable to the Red Wings. Near untouchable unless Yzerman can get a top C prospect I’d imagine.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
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valids points made:
Timmins might be hurt
DET have excess RHD prospects
Jost is an excess forward

Problem is i dont think COL needs to make a move
they could easily run:
Graves - Makar
Girard - Johnson
Zadorov - Cole
Byram

Replacing Timmins isnt a necessity
i do think COL needs to add a little here
Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
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Bednar said Timmins could play today (NHL.com in the 3 keys). Really good news.

I'm in favor of going after a guy like Priskie though to add a little more depth. The injury history of EJ and Timmins is a bit scary.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:31 a.m.
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we have no clue what happened to Timmins, so lets cool those jets for a second here
Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Detroit likes Hronek enough to play him like an all situations, heavy usage top pair D. Jost is a good asset but the value just doesn't work at all from Detroit's perspective.

The Wings value Hronek as a key piece of their team currently and moving forward, any return has to be a player that matches that description. This is all whether Detroit drafts Drysdale or not.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Just can't see it happening. We havent produced a genuine top 4 dman in years and we finally get hronek and seider coming. Making lateral moves just doesn't do anything to help us.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
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Hronek is Detroit’s best defenseman so we’re not trading him for a middle 6 forward
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
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Wings pass fast
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
we have no clue what happened to Timmins, so lets cool those jets for a second here


you actually must be Timmins agent lol
for jokes here, have you agreed with a single trade which involved moving Timmins in the past month?
Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.
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I think Yzerman would want someone along the lines of Newhook or Byram for Hronek. Maybe not 1 for 1, but Hronek has become extremely valuable to the Red Wings. Near untouchable unless Yzerman can get a top C prospect I’d imagine.


Hronek is good, and Avs would certainly need to add more than Jost, but talk of Newhook or Byram is silly.

Detroit shouldn't be trading Dmen though so it's a moot point. Even if they draft Drysdale you need to actually see him play in the NHL before you trade away your cost-controlled and young all-situations Dman.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.
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RHD can play LD, prime example is when Byram went down at WJC-20 this last year and Drysdale moved into that top LD spot and looked great. Seider also has played LD during the Griffins season some. Hronek would cost a lot more than Jost think more like Newhook/Byram.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Hronek is good, and Avs would certainly need to add more than Jost, but talk of Newhook or Byram is silly.

Detroit shouldn't be trading Dmen though so it's a moot point. Even if they draft Drysdale you need to actually see him play in the NHL before you trade away your cost-controlled and young all-situations Dman.


I agree Byram or Newhook is a stretch, and it obviously wouldn’t be a 1 for 1 as I said - Detroit probably shouldn’t/isn’t in a position to give up the additional assets. I think if Yzerman and co think they can get enough for Hronek now or in the future then drafting Drysdale makes sense as per the OP’s hypothetical situation.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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I agree Byram or Newhook is a stretch, and it obviously wouldn’t be a 1 for 1 as I said - Detroit probably shouldn’t/isn’t in a position to give up the additional assets. I think if Yzerman and co think they can get enough for Hronek now or in the future then drafting Drysdale makes sense as per the OP’s hypothetical situation.


Why would Yzerman be looking to move Hronek in the first place though? If he's good enough for Wings fans to claim that he can get Newhook or Byram then Detroit should just hold onto him. You're unlikely to get a better young player than him.

If you are indeed keen to move him though, then you should call Dubas because I hear he's looking for a cheap RHD...
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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you actually must be Timmins agent lol
for jokes here, have you agreed with a single trade which involved moving Timmins in the past month?


dude you are being classless with your scrambled head type comments. We dont know what happened and who knows he could be announced in the line up today...doesnt look good but lets stop with this sort of damaged goods speculation

And I have, multiple time....for guys like Ehlers, Reinhart, Rackell. But you do you right now my man. You just are drawing your line in the sand when it comes to me and with me hating the Anderson deals form the leafs...but since thats your second favourite team, thats not a shocker
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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I think Yzerman would want someone along the lines of Newhook or Byram for Hronek. Maybe not 1 for 1, but Hronek has become extremely valuable to the Red Wings. Near untouchable unless Yzerman can get a top C prospect I’d imagine.

That’s a pipe dream. Byram is better than Seider, and Newhook would be your 2C now Byram, Newhook, MacKinnon, Rantanen and Makar are COL’s 5 untouchables. But Yeah Jost doesn’t get Hronek even though I think Jost is exactly the kind of player DET should gamble on. Getting 2C time to the tune of 15-16 minutes I think he is a 45 pt player that can play special teams and is cost controlled for 4 more years.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
dude you are being classless with your scrambled head type comments. We dont know what happened and who knows he could be announced in the line up today...doesnt look good but lets stop with this sort of damaged goods speculation

And I have, multiple time....for guys like Ehlers, Reinhart, Rackell. But you do you right now my man. You just are drawing your line in the sand when it comes to me and with me hating the Anderson deals form the leafs...but since thats your second favourite team, thats not a shocker


Damn dude, seems i struck a nerve huh?
making a light hearted joke "you must be Timmins agent" realllllyyy got your blood boiling, enough to call me classless ? really dude? lol
grow a backbone and learn to take a joke
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.
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Why would Yzerman be looking to move Hronek in the first place though? If he's good enough for Wings fans to claim that he can get Newhook or Byram then Detroit should just hold onto him. You're unlikely to get a better young player than him.

If you are indeed keen to move him though, then you should call Dubas because I hear he's looking for a cheap RHD...


Yzerman wouldn’t be and isn’t shopping Hronek, and while I don’t disagree with your points, I didn’t make the AGM suggesting he’s available or a player Colorado should target. . .
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.
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Damn dude, seems i struck a nerve huh?
making a light hearted joke "you must be Timmins agent" realllllyyy got your blood boiling, enough to call me classless ? really dude? lol
grow a backbone and learn to take a joke


nah man, you have posted it a few times, calling you out for it
bloods not boiling, I would say you might the one who is hot under the collar you seems to be pretty defensive about being called out for your "jokes" and already starting to go with insults.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.
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nah man, you have posted it a few times, calling you out for it


what? saying you were "Timmins agent?"
call me out then, back it up with proof, ill wait
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.
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what? saying you were "Timmins agent?"
call me out then, back it up with proof, ill wait


when you were arguing me I said it was dumb to use Timmins as a trade chip just to move up in the draft with the leafs (shocker you were defending the leafs side)
You kept on saying red flags etc, just casting him off bc he got hit from behind so likes hes damaged goods or something now

You have been on that soap box for a couple days now man, all I said is to cool your jets until they know what happened to him before you start acting likes hes dead
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
when you were arguing me I said it was dumb to use Timmins as a trade chip just to move up in the draft with the leafs (shocker you were defending the leafs side)
You kept on saying red flags etc, just casting him off bc he got hit from behind so likes hes damaged goods or something now

You have been on that soap box for a couple days now man, all I said is to cool your jets until they know what happened to him before you start acting likes hes dead


me cool my jets? lol
i made a joke that you were Timmins agent and you called me classless for it.
seems like youve got a settle down there
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:38 p.m.
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me cool my jets? lol
i made a joke that you were Timmins agent and you called me classless for it.
seems like youve got a settle down there


You dont get it, its not the agent comment, it how you have been talking about him since the hit up to today (which he isnt yet ruled out to play today and you dont even know why he left the game in the first place)

I am done talking with you today, you arent getting it
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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Lol, talk about getting your panties in a bunch about nothing
Sep. 4, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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You dont get it, its not the agent comment, it how you have been talking about him since the hit up to today (which he isnt yet ruled out to play today and you dont even know why he left the game in the first place)

I am done talking with you today, you arent getting it


and you sit here accusing me of my second fandom for the Leafs and yet youve made a number of comments for timmins to WPG, your second favourite team.... yikkkess goes both ways huh
 
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