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Perfect time for a Murray to COL trade

Created by: TheGuyInTheChair
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 25, 2020
Published: Sep. 4, 2020
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Think this is fair value
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,750,000
2$2,550,000
1$850,000
2$750,000
2$1,600,000
Trades
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2.
COL
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,100,175$0$850,000$1,399,825

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
G
UFA - 3
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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I'd rather start Hutchinson
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
I'd rather start Hutchinson


Okay it's not a great idea, but don't be that dramatic. Hutchinson has no awareness of his net at least 50% of the time.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:16 p.m.
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I'd rather start Hutchinson


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Okay it's not a great idea, but don't be that dramatic. Hutchinson has no awareness of his net at least 50% of the time.


Hutchinson is a good goalie but collapses under pressure every time.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Hutchinson is a good goalie but collapses under pressure every time.


Hutchinson is not a good goalie
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
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Timmins or Jost, no interest in Compher
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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murray's not my first choice but if he's what's left i'd be fine with that trade.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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I think they rather Andersen. Murray could go to arb and ask for 7Mx1.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Just awful,
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
Hutchinson is not a good goalie


Neither is Murray and he wants 8m aav
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Neither is Murray and he wants 8m aav


I'm not vouching for him either. Colorado should target a UFA if they don't like the injuries that Grubauer and Francouz have been getting lately.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
I'm not vouching for him either. Colorado should target a UFA if they don't like the injuries that Grubauer and Francouz have been getting lately.


Have to wait to find out what the injuries are but they should explore the goalie market and do their due diligence but they have them both under contract next year and both are good when healthy. Pens and leafs fans are acting like avs goalies have been bad and their under preforming goalies for prime assets in trades fixes the avs

Which is just horse poop logic, if they were good the would keep them bc they are cup contenders too
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Timmins or Jost, no interest in Compher


Dreamin
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:38 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Dreamin


In what world is Jost for Murray dreaming?
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
In what world is Jost for Murray dreaming?


Funny how you leave out Timmons
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
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Funny how you leave out Timmons


Timmons has an injury history and no guaranteed role in Colorado moving forward, Murray’s value is probably somewhere in between the two
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Neither is Murray and he wants 8m aav


He's not getting $8 million or even half that
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Timmons has an injury history and no guaranteed role in Colorado moving forward, Murray’s value is probably somewhere in between the two


If Murray wants a $5m+ extension the market for him will be anorexic.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: the_guy_in_the_chair
He's not getting $8 million or even half that


That’s what he’s asking for and he has arb rights, that’s why no one wants him, meeting him in the middle is a gross over payment.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Timmons has an injury history and no guaranteed role in Colorado moving forward, Murray’s value is probably somewhere in between the two


And so does Matt Murray who has a worse injury history having 3 concussions alrady

Dont gloss over that fact of an a goalie coming off a sub .900 season with a long injury history who thinks he can ask for 8m aav.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
If Murray wants a $5m+ extension the market for him will be anorexic.


clearly not based off of the Allen trade
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
And so does Matt Murray who has a worse injury history having 3 concussions alrady

Dont gloss over that fact of an a goalie coming off a sub .900 season with a long injury history who thinks he can ask for 8m aav.


not sure where you're getting that number but reports have been ~6M
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Timmins or Jost, no interest in Compher


I have no interest in Jost.

However, Compher alone is not enough. Maybe Compher and Timmins. The value of a "1st and 3rd"
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
I have no interest in Jost.

However, Compher alone is not enough. Maybe Compher and Timmins. The value of a "1st and 3rd"


Pens add in that and Compher still doesn't solve 3C problem
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
not sure where you're getting that number but reports have been ~6M


It’s been reported he was asking 6-8m aav.
6m is too much on his low end ask, you talk about injuries on Timmins look at Murray. He’s been dinged up with multiple concussions at 26. There is a major risk in him as well. I don’t know why penguins fans are clearly ignoring that when trying to trade him. That why other teams don’t want to invest major assets and big cap space in him, he’s a huge wild card
Sep. 4, 2020 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
It’s been reported he was asking 6-8m aav.
6m is too much on his low end ask, you talk about injuries on Timmins look at Murray. He’s been dinged up with multiple concussions at 26. There is a major risk in him as well. I don’t know why penguins fans are clearly ignoring that when trying to trade him. That why other teams don’t want to invest major assets and big cap space in him, he’s a huge wild card


given that six or seven teams are rumored to be in on him, I would say you're overestimating the impact of 'pens fans'

maybe you just think he's worth less than NHL GMs do
 
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