Taking a goalie in the lottery is always a terrible idea unless its Carey Price

Andrei Vasilesky was a first round draft goalie, so was fleury, all doing well. Issue with Askarov he wont be NHL ready for 3-5 years so teams are gonna have to be patient.

That said, the offer is intriguing.

Why would u get Askarov when u get Kuemper who is a great goalie as of late, u guys should trade that pick for a player now

i get aves have a really nice pool of defenseman but that seems like a steal for graves... dubas accepts immediately but i dont think sakic would ever consider that.

Have Annunen no need to trade assets for Askrov

The sens easily decline

What do you think Toronto would need to add to make the trade balanced? Should it just be Graves for #15 straight up perhaps?

I think Askarov could be ready much sooner than that. Probably around 2022/23. Same as Annunen.



Kuemper is an UFA in 2022. He'd help us for 2 cup runs and bridge the gap until our prospect goalies would be ready to take over.

I'm also not too keen on locking down 30+ goalies to long-term extensions.

It could be to any team that needs a cheap goalie. Buffalo/Detroit/etc.

Annunen is good, but he's not generational. Adding Askarov could be the key to keeping our cup window open for close to a decade.

a second for a backup goalie especially with the UFA goalie class is very unrealistic for any team. Maybe a 4th

Calling any goalie prospect generational is a crazy. If he were they would be talking about him in the top 5.

Kuemper will cost you a first rounder. Demers can get them a third or fourth round pick easily. He’s still a pretty solid hockey player

People ARE talking about him as a possible top 5 pick though. In most draft years there wouldn't even be a discussion. This years top 12 is just very deep.

Allen returned a 3rd, with a caphit of $4.35m and just 1 year term.

I think a very good backup at $2m x 2 years will be attractive to many teams if we make him available.

How much experience does graves have in the right side?

He's played a lot on the right side on the PK. Other than that he's played mostly LHD with Makar this season. I don't think handedness makes more of a difference for him compared to other Dmen.

im pretty low on him for now tbh maybe its just me personally. coming off a bad playoffs for a fairly unexperienced NHL goalie would frigthen me. If he goes for a return similar to allen i see that as a fair return but i still think a 2 is a stretch

I wasn't sure what value he would have, but asking around on capfriendly several fans from other teams said a 2nd was fair, including some Montreal and Toronto fans.

He did have a bad series against Dallas, but he apparently hurt his hand in game 2 which might have contributed. He was unfit to play in games 5-7, not even on the bench. Before that he was excellent in the regular season and his contract was widely celebrated as a steal.

it could also revolve around a multi-part andersen deal if an extension is reachable, but i still dont see aves needing to get rid of him for futures. i think leafs would be a little more interested in timmins because he plays the right side but i get hes unproven yet. he's also from the sault st marie greyhounds and dubas loves guys from there (where he came up the ranks)