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Changes for 20-21

Created by: CaptJosef
Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 5, 2020
Published: Sep. 7, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,250,000
2$1,150,000
1$1,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Hossa, Marián
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ARI)
  3. 2022 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. van Riemsdyk, James ($1,500,000 retained)
2.
WPG
  1. Hägg, Robert [RFA Rights]
  2. Voracek, Jakub ($1,500,000 retained)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
If the pick is top 15 the Flyers can defer it to 2022
3.
MIN
  1. Friedman, Mark
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$69,949,132$66,037$847,500$11,550,868
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$700,000$700,000
LD, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$5,275,000$5,275,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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Take out Laughton and Friedman, add Frost, then take out the 2nd and 3rd, add 1st.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Take out Laughton and Friedman, add Frost, then take out the 2nd and 3rd, add 1st.


I wouldn't want Dumba personally, especially for Frost lol
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Take out Laughton and Friedman, add Frost, then take out the 2nd and 3rd, add 1st.


Dumba for Frost and a first is a DRASTIC overpayment. Dumba is coming off a down year and is certainly not worth a future top liner.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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I don't see the Jets giving that deal any consideration.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
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Dumba for Frost and a first is a DRASTIC overpayment. Dumba is coming off a down year and is certainly not worth a future top liner.



We don't get to call Morgan Frost a future top liner and treat his value as such if we're basing Dumba's value off his down year coming off an injury. Doesn't work that way.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
We don't get to call Morgan Frost a future top liner and treat his value as such if we're basing Dumba's value off his down year coming off an injury. Doesn't work that way.


Why would the Flyers be willing to move their best forward prospect then? Why treat his value as anything less? They aren't moving him for anything but elite talent. Dumba is a solid top 3, but he's on the wrong side of the elite conversation.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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Bad offer for Dumba and doesn't fill the Wild needs. Frost and a 1st it's not like Frost has proven he is a top 6 center yet and it's not like the Flyers are picking in the top end of the draft any time soon. Flyers can add ghost if they need to dump salary, but that's the cost. Doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are on Dumbas game chuck fletcher drafted him and I'm sure he would love him.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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Why would the Flyers be willing to move their best forward prospect then? Why treat his value as anything less? They aren't moving him for anything but elite talent. Dumba is a solid top 3, but he's on the wrong side of the elite conversation.


Then don't move Frost for Dumba. But you're not getting Dumba for scraps.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Then don't move Frost for Dumba. But you're not getting Dumba for scraps.


I agree here. I don't think this package is enough. Though, Laughton is worth a lot more than given credit for - he would fit really nicely in MIN. Obviously the flyers should add, but somewhere inbetween this AGM's package and what you think you can get for him.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I agree here. I don't think this package is enough. Though, Laughton is worth a lot more than given credit for - he would fit really nicely in MIN. Obviously the flyers should add, but somewhere inbetween this AGM's package and what you think you can get for him.


No, Laughton wouldn't fit nicely here. We have bottom six centers already.

The thing about moving Dumba is that it's not about finding the right value, it's about addressing Minnesota's needs. Frost is the only Flyer that can do that while being even remotely available. If Frost isn't remotely available then there's no trade with the Flyers. Laughton isn't enough of a base, Couturier is too much, Patrick is a walking question mark with red flags tied to it. It begins and ends with Frost.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
No, Laughton wouldn't fit nicely here. We have bottom six centers already.

The thing about moving Dumba is that it's not about finding the right value, it's about addressing Minnesota's needs. Frost is the only Flyer that can do that while being even remotely available. If Frost isn't remotely available then there's no trade with the Flyers. Laughton isn't enough of a base, Couturier is too much, Patrick is a walking question mark with red flags tied to it. It begins and ends with Frost.


Frost holds more value to the Flyers than Dumba does. So MIN is ADDING to any frost trade. That obviously won't settle well with the Wild, so no deal happens. I don't really see Dumba working in Philly anyways.

IMO, the price should be O'Brien, Strome and a First.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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Frost holds more value to the Flyers than Dumba does. So MIN is ADDING to any frost trade. That obviously won't settle well with the Wild, so no deal happens. I don't really see Dumba working in Philly anyways.

IMO, the price should be O'Brien, Strome and a First.


Is there a hysterical laughter emoji on this site? That package doesn't even come close. You're getting laughed off the phone if you propose that.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Paul13
Bad offer for Dumba and doesn't fill the Wild needs. Frost and a 1st it's not like Frost has proven he is a top 6 center yet and it's not like the Flyers are picking in the top end of the draft any time soon. Flyers can add ghost if they need to dump salary, but that's the cost. Doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are on Dumbas game chuck fletcher drafted him and I'm sure he would love him.


Ghost Frost and a 1st most likely would be the deal if it were to ever happen. But that all depends on the Nolan Patrick situation if they even consider it, if he’s healthy then I could see the Flyers pulling the trigger. Would put them in a tough spot for expansion draft though.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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I don't see the Jets giving that deal any consideration.


Why's that? Voracek at $6,750,000 is reasonable, the Jets also get another D whose a serviceable 3rd player, plus a first round pick. I feel like that's reasonable value.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.
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Why's that? Voracek at $6,750,000 is reasonable, the Jets also get another D whose a serviceable 3rd player, plus a first round pick. I feel like that's reasonable value.


Because he's 31, trending down for the last two seasons, doesn't fill a hole for the Jets and would never be considered for a 22 year old first line winger. He's an older, worse and getting worse everyday version of Laine.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 6:11 p.m.
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Because he's 31, trending down for the last two seasons, doesn't fill a hole for the Jets and would never be considered for a 22 year old first line winger. He's an older, worse and getting worse everyday version of Laine.


I think that's overly harsh, he's a stable 65+ point top 6 winger for $6,750,000. He's a good skater and playmaker and those skills aren't declining. The first pick is there to balance out the trade.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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I think that's overly harsh, he's a stable 65+ point top 6 winger for $6,750,000. He's a good skater and playmaker and those skills aren't declining. The first pick is there to balance out the trade.


It might be a little harsh, but be realistic. Would you trade Provorov or another young Flyer player for a worse 31 year old version that doesn't fill any team needs?
Sep. 7, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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It might be a little harsh, but be realistic. Would you trade Provorov or another young Flyer player for a worse 31 year old version that doesn't fill any team needs?


Probably not but neither player in this scenario is team teams best in position. And again it's not a one for one swap. It also has a first that could be 16-31. Flyers drafted Frost at 27th, I think you'd call that a different deal if it was Frost and Voracek?
Sep. 7, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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Probably not but neither player in this scenario is team teams best in position. And again it's not a one for one swap. It also has a first that could be 16-31. Flyers drafted Frost at 27th, I think you'd call that a different deal if it was Frost and Voracek?


Frost is a nice piece and so is the first, but there is no chance the Jets consider Vorachek as part of the deal. If Philly was really serious the deal would need to be built around Sanheim or maybe Provorov, other than that there just isn't anything that would tempt the Jets and they just keep Laine.
 
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