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Pietrangelo

Created by: MakeMarnerACentre
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2020
Published: Sep. 7, 2020
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alot of you are going to disagree with the andersen trade , but i believe he can easily fetch a first rounder, and if he cant i have no problem holding on to him
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,500,000
2$900,000
5$3,750,000
4$2,500,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
7$8,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. McCann, Jared [RFA Rights]
  2. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
PIT
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
3.
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (NJD)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,884,783$0$400,000$615,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$8,500,000$8,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.
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Quoting: MakeMarnerACentre
the canes have been reported to have already made offers on andersen lol, and the ask is a 1st+


Gonna need the link stating that the asking price is that high
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:32 p.m.
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26 and 28th actually. Certainly not a career year. But to look at one year is cherry picking.

I mean his last 3 seasons have been better than Carey price. His career stats are great.

I don’t think there are many people that would back you up that Freddy isn’t a very good goaltender. Leafs fans or other.


oh, definitely not saying hes not a very good goaltender... just not top 10,
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.
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oh, definitely not saying hes not a very good goaltender... just not top 10,


I would say that’s debatable. Personally I would put him there. Toronto is not an easy place to be a goaltender, even with good defence. There is a ton of pressure and he has been awesome.

You could argue any of the top 20 goalies into the top 10 really.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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I would say that’s debatable. Personally I would put him there. Toronto is not an easy place to be a goaltender, even with good defence. There is a ton of pressure and he has been awesome.

You could argue any of the top 20 goalies into the top 10 really.


I agree you could argue it, but the fact of the matter is, we're not the ones deciding this.

and if trades have already been going on, and this "andersen for a 1st" hasn't happened, it would be safe to make an assumption that nobody feels he's worth a 1st (or possibly Toronto thinks he's worth more) and I don't know how many top 10 goalies get traded for spare parts or 2nd rounder.

Regular season is only 2 months away, trades are already happening so everyone can start getting ready (moving families, prepping for training camps, etc..)

we'll see as the offseason moves on.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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I agree you could argue it, but the fact of the matter is, we're not the ones deciding this.

and if trades have already been going on, and this "andersen for a 1st" hasn't happened, it would be safe to make an assumption that nobody feels he's worth a 1st (or possibly Toronto thinks he's worth more) and I don't know how many top 10 goalies get traded for spare parts or 2nd rounder.

Regular season is only 2 months away, trades are already happening so everyone can start getting ready (moving families, prepping for training camps, etc..)

we'll see as the offseason moves on.


Leafs aren’t moving him till they have a replacement. Which completely explains why he hasn’t been moved.

I would say his value should be just a bit more than that of Allen’s but one detail. Andersen costs 1/4 of what Allen does. This makes him attractive to teams on a budget.

Does that turn a 2nd and a 3rd into a 1st? I’m not sure. I certainly don’t think you get the Toronto pick back.
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Sep. 8, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Leafs aren’t moving him till they have a replacement. Which completely explains why he hasn’t been moved.

I would say his value should be just a bit more than that of Allen’s but one detail. Andersen costs 1/4 of what Allen does. This makes him attractive to teams on a budget.

Does that turn a 2nd and a 3rd into a 1st? I’m not sure. I certainly don’t think you get the Toronto pick back.


I agree with everything you said, pretty much no chance on them giving up a legitimate chance at Askarov (guy is basically Vasilevskiy jr.)

Cash is definitely important, but it still comes to, Carolina spent $87M on while being at the ceiling.
So, I don't think cash is that important to them, their big problem with trading for a goalie is, they already have 2 at $3-ish million each, both with salary almost matching their cap hits.

we'll see how this goes, problem is, free agency is likely beginning of october with the season starting a month later, I'm anxious to see the mad rush for FA's with a flat cap.
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Sep. 8, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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Quoting: KMMHL2012
I agree with everything you said, pretty much no chance on them giving up a legitimate chance at Askarov (guy is basically Vasilevskiy jr.)

Cash is definitely important, but it still comes to, Carolina spent $87M on while being at the ceiling.
So, I don't think cash is that important to them, their big problem with trading for a goalie is, they already have 2 at $3-ish million each, both with salary almost matching their cap hits.

we'll see how this goes, problem is, free agency is likely beginning of october with the season starting a month later, I'm anxious to see the mad rush for FA's with a flat cap.


That was before covid hit. Canes gave Aho nearly 10m in July 1st with no ticket sales and none on the immediate horizon. Yes they are willing to spend on the team but how much are they willing to lose?
Sep. 8, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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That was before covid hit. Canes gave Aho nearly 10m in July 1st with no ticket sales and none on the immediate horizon. Yes they are willing to spend on the team but how much are they willing to lose?


I think that applies equally across the board to all teams, Toronto has the highest ticket prices of any team, but if there's nobody attending or provincial limitations on gatherings in "second wave" situations, then no income - expenses in USD +/- FX issues.

US election years have a tendency to affect Canadian foreign exchange as well, so, there are a ton of political and market factors that can impact decision making.

once again, we'll see how everything develops. Toronto might be on top, Carolina might be, predicting pandemic responses over the past 6 months shows us how little we know about our neighbors to the south. lol
Sep. 8, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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I think that applies equally across the board to all teams, Toronto has the highest ticket prices of any team, but if there's nobody attending or provincial limitations on gatherings in "second wave" situations, then no income - expenses in USD +/- FX issues.

US election years have a tendency to affect Canadian foreign exchange as well, so, there are a ton of political and market factors that can impact decision making.

once again, we'll see how everything develops. Toronto might be on top, Carolina might be, predicting pandemic responses over the past 6 months shows us how little we know about our neighbors to the south. lol


Toronto will be good for a few years without ticket sales before they have to budget. MLSe is over 5 billion.
Sep. 8, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.
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Toronto will be good for a few years without ticket sales before they have to budget. MLSe is over 5 billion.


as a valuation, yes.

maintainable cash flows is a different story.

I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon, the point being, it's like the stock market, the value of a stock and the ability of the company to generate cash flows are two different things.
Sep. 8, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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as a valuation, yes.

maintainable cash flows is a different story.

I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon, the point being, it's like the stock market, the value of a stock and the ability of the company to generate cash flows are two different things.


Their cash flow is just fine. The last two teams to fold in the nhl will be the leafs and the rangers.

As far as supporting the team they have no issues. This also goes for all staff and medical centres. If there’s no fans for 2-3 years then I can see them dialing it back a bit. The leafs budget is far more extensive than just the team.
 
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