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Couture to TOR and Burns to DAL

Created by: CheechYou
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2020
Published: Sep. 7, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,350,000
2$810,300
4$2,900,000
2$1,000,000
1$800,000
2$3,750,000
3$2,900,000
1$800,000
Trades
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2.
SJS
  1. Johns, Stephen
  2. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Burns, Brent ($2,000,000 retained)
3.
SJS
  1. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,854,332$0$297,500$4,645,668

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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UFA - 5
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$4,350,000$4,350,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,700,000$3,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
$2,900,000$2,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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UFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 7
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UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
$2,900,000$2,900,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 2
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RD
UFA - 1
$3,750,000$3,750,000
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UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$768,333$768,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
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RFA - 1
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, and glen healy has a cup ring, oo-de-lally


idk who glen healy is, I'm like 10 years old
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
it is absolutely crazy, as far as him being a good "captain" well that's certainly helped the sharks out eh?


Last year the whole team was tired and injured pretty much and the coach was doing dumb things, so please don’t put all your logic on one bad season.
He’s been a solid if not spectacular two way Center with tons of skill both ways and a leader for years. Give him a competent team and depth he will vary a line and team to the playoffs and do everything he can to push them through.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, and glen healy has a cup ring, oo-de-lally

Look you obnoxious ass I don’t want to trade him and I won’t argue Tavares isn’t CLEARLY better regular season player, but playoff performer and leader Couture it leaps and bounds ahead of him
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Last year the whole team was tired and injured pretty much and the coach was doing dumb things, so please don’t put all your logic on one bad season.
He’s been a solid if not spectacular two way Center with tons of skill both ways and a leader for years. Give him a competent team and depth he will vary a line and team to the playoffs and do everything he can to push them through.


he's 31 years old, declining and he makes 8 million a year for 7 more years and plays a position the leafs do not have an opening at. He could be the best leader in the world and it would be a stupid trade for toronto.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Look you obnoxious ass I don’t want to trade him and I won’t argue Tavares isn’t CLEARLY better regular season player, but playoff performer and leader Couture it leaps and bounds ahead of him


please prove to me how he's a better leader.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he's 31 years old, declining and he makes 8 million a year for 7 more years and plays a position the leafs do not have an opening at. He could be the best leader in the world and it would be a stupid trade for toronto.


He’s not declining yet... but I will be the first to say that contract was 2-3 years to long for the value. And if couture put up 8-10 goals 16-25 points in a run to the cup that wouldn’t be dumb
And if you think that’s asking a lot his last 4 playoff runs where 20 games 20 points, 10 games 12 points, 6 games 3 points, 24 games 30 points.
That’s what Toronto needs more than anything
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
please prove to me how he's a better leader.


Never said better leader said better playoff performer and a good leader or that’s what I meant to say
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:57 p.m.
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Dallas simply can’t afford Burns’ contract. Their cap space after signing their RFA’s is razor thin as it is & they’ve gotta start prepping for Heiskanen’s massive contract that’ll kick in during the 2021-2022 season.

With a flat salary cap for at least the next two years, Dallas simply can’t make the money work for someone like Brent Burns.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
He’s not declining yet... but I will be the first to say that contract was 2-3 years to long for the value. And if couture put up 8-10 goals 16-25 points in a run to the cup that wouldn’t be dumb
And if you think that’s asking a lot his last 4 playoff runs where 20 games 20 points, 10 games 12 points, 6 games 3 points, 24 games 30 points.
That’s what Toronto needs more than anything


it really isnt, it is literally the last thing the leafs need.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
it really isnt, it is literally the last thing the leafs need.


Your right why would toronto play for the cup When they can dominate the regular season and end the season 6 games into the first round each year. Keep up the good work guys
Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Your right why would toronto play for the cup When they can dominate the regular season and end the season 6 games into the first round each year. Keep up the good work guys


oh im sorry, i didnt know that Couture played RD and wasnt a center that the leafs would be adding to a team with Tavares and Matthews. wow, let me trade that top line winger for this totally not redundant piece. Everyone knows the leafs main issues is a lack of top 6 center depth!
Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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Not interested. DAL needs money to sign Heiskanen. Adding Burns isn't a wise decision long-term.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
Sure man, take our 24 year old future franchise winger with 90+ point potential signed at $7M for the next 4 years - we'll take that 8 million dollar 31 year old who's on the cusp of decline and under contract till he's 38


Yeesh...I agree that TOR will decline that but man you're overselling regarding Nylander WAY too much.

Let the guy break the 70 point mark before claiming he is of franchise winger quality and a potential 90 point player...
Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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Sharks counter with Martin Jones for Austin Matthews


I’d consider that over this garbage...
Sep. 7, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.
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If you want a first for Burns you’ll have to retain more. Yes I realize Burns is still good but that contract stinks
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:03 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Yeesh...I agree that TOR will decline that but man you're overselling regarding Nylander WAY too much.

Let the guy break the 70 point mark before claiming he is of franchise winger quality and a potential 90 point player...


Stats after 307 NHL games played:

Nylander:
86G 135A 221P 16:13 TOI average

MacKinnon:
76G 135A 211P 18:19 TOI average

Marner/Matthews were also 60 point guys, until Matty was on pace for 60 goals and Marner had a 94 point season followed up by another on pace for 90 point season, even considering he was injured

Nylander has every ounce of potential to be just as good as those guys - except MacKinnon, I'll admit that's a bit of a stretch. No reason why he can't enter Marner territory though, esp with his goal scoring ability
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
Stats after 307 NHL games played:

Nylander:
86G 135A 221P 16:13 TOI average

MacKinnon:
76G 135A 211P 18:19 TOI average

Marner/Matthews were also 60 point guys, until Matty was on pace for 60 goals and Marner had a 94 point season followed up by another on pace for 90 point season, even considering he was injured

Nylander has every ounce of potential to be just as good as those guys - except MacKinnon, I'll admit that's a bit of a stretch. No reason why he can't enter Marner territory though, esp with his goal scoring ability


Comparing his stats to what MacKinnon is so naive in so many ways that it's actually mind bogling.

For starters, MacKinnon had barely turned 18 before his NHL debut. He was drafted as a 17 year old. The team he came into wasn't anything special, yet he pretty much became the leading guy of his team starting from Day 1. Something Nylander hasn't managed yet, at 24.

Nylander had time to adjust his game in AHL for year and a half before debuting at 19. TOR had a ready package for him to play in, so it wasn't no wonder his first full year at 20 was statistically pretty impressive - yet it still fell short regarding MacKinnon's debut as an 18 year old.

The age difference between the two is less than a year - yet Nylander hasn't come even close to what that guy is, despite how their first 307 games might look like, because the circumstances regarding the two differs massively.

Matthews and Marner are better talents over Nylander by quite a margin, and they've actually proved that. Nylander has yet to do that. I'm very skeptical of his ability to ever reach that level.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:35 p.m.
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Nylander is #4 on his team, he's behind 2 40-50 goal scores and a 90 point franchise guy, so it'd be pretty for him to be that leading guy.

Also, statistically, age difference aside, they've been relatively similar players in their first few seasons - again, not counting on ice leadership/defensive ability, cause MacKinnon sweeps the board there.

My point is, the guy has serious potential. Players take time to Blossom, MacKinnon it took him till season 5, Nylander is on season 4 (season 3 being a trainwreck). He will not become the player MacKinnon is, that's true - but to say he can't sniff Marner numbers is silly.

Quoting: justaBoss
Matthews and Marner are better talents over Nylander by quite a margin, and they've actually proved that. Nylander has yet to do that. I'm very skeptical of his ability to ever reach that level.


They are better as of now - it would make so much more sense to see if he blossoms into a better player. He won't eclipse Matthews, but for years there was a debate between Marner vs. Nylander, the guys are equal. Marner took a step, Nylander didn't - that doesn't mean Nylander won't, his contract year was a huge setback.

Just this year he cracked the 30 goal mark, next year he could easily crack 70 points under a new coach. Babcock absolutely hated him and would often times bench him out of spite - his ice time stats in his first few years were terrible. Under Keefe the guy had a career year, idk why that won't continue into the next couple seasons.

For me, unless the return is literally insane, we can't trade away a guy on a good contract who's entering his prime. Getting rid of his 30 goals would put such a gaping hole in the Top 6 from what it currently is now, and idk how you replace that.
 
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