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Philly After Horrible ECSF Loss

Created by: sk540
Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2020
Published: Sep. 8, 2020
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I believe our offense is exactly where we need it with Lindblom hopefully staying healthy and Patrick getting right after his neurological issues that have plagued him. If he returns to the level he was playing towards the end of the 18-19 season, I would say we could the deepest Center corps in the East save Tampa Bay obviously.

Signing Pietraneglo I think would accomplish several things, getting an anchor Dman out there with Provy that can shutdown top lines night and night out, while also giving you another Dman who can contribute offensively while also having a stellar defensive game. 2. I believe AP can mold Provy to take that next step in his development, I still don't think Provy is near his ceiling yet. 3. This will enable a guy like Nisky to have a come back year after a down playoffs, in which he was very solid during the RS. I think a lot of our guys didn't return to the form that were at pre-Covid. 4. Add another terrific special teams player, both on the PP and PK. 5. He is a proven winner and has seen his fair share of playoff battles, his experience will be invaluable to our room. 6. Give us that final push while the window of contention for us remains open.

The time to win is now, this is shoving all your chips in the middle.

Mind you, we still have money for Hart and Sanheim the following year, so no worries about the cap in 21-22 either. Also, you'd hope the cap goes up that year after two consecutive years of the stagnant cap. I know G and Coots are up in 2022 but hopefully G will take a team friendly deal which will allow us to sign Coots to a mega contract, one he 100% deserves. I don't see Farabee becoming a Brayden Point or Patrick Laine in two years so he should be affordable as well.
Free Agent Signings
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2$950,000
2$2,750,000
2$1,000,000
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2$1,150,000
1$1,500,000
7$8,880,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Grundström, Carl
  2. 2020 6th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. 2020 4th round pick (PHI)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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20$81,500,000$70,985,799$66,037$582,500$10,514,201

Roster

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RW, C
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C
UFA - 2
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LW
UFA - 3
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C
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UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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C, RW
UFA - 1
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RW
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LW, RW
UFA - 1
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C, LW
UFA - 1
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RW
UFA - 2
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$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
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LD/RD
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Sep. 8, 2020 at 1:33 a.m.
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I wouldn't be super worried about anything because of the anomaly that is 2020 but Flyers played better against the Isles than they did the Habs. Habs outplayed the Flyers in that series too but the Habs offence just went cold after the 5-0 win.
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I don't see Pietrangelo signing for less than $11 million. If he did, it would be with St. Louis.
Sep. 8, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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i wouldnt put too much stock in this playoff... considering 3 of the 4 teams that are left were seriously struggling when the pandemic cancelled the season. If this playoff was during its typical time frame i would put money on a philly boston ecf and a vegas blues wcf. lightning, stars, and islanders all benefit heavily from the 5 month layoff.
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Sep. 9, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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I wouldn't be super worried about anything because of the anomaly that is 2020 but Flyers played better against the Isles than they did the Habs. Habs outplayed the Flyers in that series too but the Habs offence just went cold after the 5-0 win.


Oh I agree, but a 4-0 loss like that was just such a let down. I mean it's a game 7, and everyone from the coach to Nate Thompson played poorly. It was just a very disappointing end to the season. My hopes are high though that we will be back next year, I just think we need more consistency defensively.

If not Pietraneglo, I would like to go after a bonafide sniper or someone who can contribute offensively/on the PP, maybe a Hoffman or Dadanov, or even someone like Taylor Hall, although he has been in decline and his price tag may be higher than AP.
Sep. 9, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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i wouldnt put too much stock in this playoff... considering 3 of the 4 teams that are left were seriously struggling when the pandemic cancelled the season. If this playoff was during its typical time frame i would put money on a philly boston ecf and a vegas blues wcf. lightning, stars, and islanders all benefit heavily from the 5 month layoff.


Very True, like I said, I fully expect them to be back, what the problem is for me is what the bigger issue is? Do they need an anchor on D or can they let their D grow and should they go after an offensive threat. Either way, there still needs to be a tweak here and there to be on the TBL level.
Sep. 9, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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I don't see Pietrangelo signing for less than $11 million. If he did, it would be with St. Louis.


The flat cap is going to make it difficult for anyone to sign for 10+. If that's the price tag so be it. We can afford that and then figure it out prior to the season starts, if we still get the 10% cap cushion in the offseason.
Sep. 9, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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Very True, like I said, I fully expect them to be back, what the problem is for me is what the bigger issue is? Do they need an anchor on D or can they let their D grow and should they go after an offensive threat. Either way, there still needs to be a tweak here and there to be on the TBL level.


TBL wasnt even on the TBL level during the regular season. thats why this playoff is a joke. lightning were 3-6-1 going into the season being cancelled with some tough games lined up for them. They could have had a second 1st round bounce had the season continued and it would have 100% been a possibility. i think the flyers are fine, their offense just needs to show up when it counts.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:27 p.m.
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TBL wasnt even on the TBL level during the regular season. thats why this playoff is a joke. lightning were 3-6-1 going into the season being cancelled with some tough games lined up for them. They could have had a second 1st round bounce had the season continued and it would have 100% been a possibility. i think the flyers are fine, their offense just needs to show up when it counts.


I think you are majorly undervaluing their team just due to the fact that its a different type of playoff. Yes TBL started slow but they were one of, if not the, best team in the league the last 2 months. It is evident you can plainly see the talent up and down the lineup, it's not even close. And they're doing this all without Stammer. Say what you will about the lay off and whatever, but it is easy to see why they are in the ECF's/SCF's almost every other year. They are a bonafide annual cup contender: Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Sergachev, Gourde, and Johnson, and then you have what seemingly feels like an endless role call of specialists and spark plugs like Palat, Killorn, Cirelli, Maroon, and then you fill out the rest of your bottom 4 with guys who have had degrees of varying success around the league like Coburn, McDonagh, Bogosian, and Shatty, but also seem to make Luke Schenn work somehow too as a 6th/7th.

Dude, I'm not even a Lightning fan but i think it's pretty clear to see why they are in the cup finals.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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I think you are majorly undervaluing their team just due to the fact that its a different type of playoff. Yes TBL started slow but they were one of, if not the, best team in the league the last 2 months. It is evident you can plainly see the talent up and down the lineup, it's not even close. And they're doing this all without Stammer. Say what you will about the lay off and whatever, but it is easy to see why they are in the ECF's/SCF's almost every other year. They are a bonafide annual cup contender: Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Sergachev, Gourde, and Johnson, and then you have what seemingly feels like an endless role call of specialists and spark plugs like Palat, Killorn, Cirelli, Maroon, and then you fill out the rest of your bottom 4 with guys who have had degrees of varying success around the league like Coburn, McDonagh, Bogosian, and Shatty, but also seem to make Luke Schenn work somehow too as a 6th/7th.

Dude, I'm not even a Lightning fan but i think it's pretty clear to see why they are in the cup finals.


ONE, im quoting back to march... where the lightning were absolutely lost as a team. they didnt really start slow after the layoff. Maybe during the regular season but thats what happens when youve got some vets. regardless. vasy had been giving up between 3 and 4 goals a game in the 7-8 starts before the season ended. they were losing games to bad teams, had no chemistry anywhere in the lineup. Injuries everywhere, guys were pretty obviously playing through some stuff during the march stretch as they were trying to catch boston for the 1 seed.

Comparing march to now is like comparing an apple to a gorilla. There is no similarity between August 1st and march 10th. Dallas stars were one of the worst teams in hockey based on the last 10 games as well as tampa when the season was cancelled. the 5 month layoff is longer than most playoff teams get to begin with. nevermind the fact that they literally disregard the ENTIRE seasons worth of games and decided seeding based on some BS 3 preseason roundrobin style games lol. Khudobin got hot during the summer, lightning scorers got hot in the summer and decided to play defense. Am i slighting tampa in any way saying they arent a good team? no. What i am saying is this "playoff" bears little to no resemblance of the regular season that took place because if it did tampa and dallas likely arent where they are today. Colorado philly st.louis vegas and boston were the 5 hottest teams going into the break. Lightning, stars, islanders, bluejackets, were 4 of the worst at the time.
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ONE, im quoting back to march... where the lightning were absolutely lost as a team. they didnt really start slow after the layoff. Maybe during the regular season but thats what happens when youve got some vets. regardless. vasy had been giving up between 3 and 4 goals a game in the 7-8 starts before the season ended. they were losing games to bad teams, had no chemistry anywhere in the lineup. Injuries everywhere, guys were pretty obviously playing through some stuff during the march stretch as they were trying to catch boston for the 1 seed.

Comparing march to now is like comparing an apple to a gorilla. There is no similarity between August 1st and march 10th. Dallas stars were one of the worst teams in hockey based on the last 10 games as well as tampa when the season was cancelled. the 5 month layoff is longer than most playoff teams get to begin with. nevermind the fact that they literally disregard the ENTIRE seasons worth of games and decided seeding based on some BS 3 preseason roundrobin style games lol. Khudobin got hot during the summer, lightning scorers got hot in the summer and decided to play defense. Am i slighting tampa in any way saying they arent a good team? no. What i am saying is this "playoff" bears little to no resemblance of the regular season that took place because if it did tampa and dallas likely arent where they are today. Colorado philly st.louis vegas and boston were the 5 hottest teams going into the break. Lightning, stars, islanders, bluejackets, were 4 of the worst at the time.


OK, I get all of that. But what says the hottest teams in March are the same teams that make it far? Remember TB last year? They cruised the whole year, got to the playoffs, and got swept. It's not about who is hot in March, it's about who gets hottest when the playoffs start. Isnt' that exactly what Dallas and TB did? Everyone has the same things going on around them, every team had the same situation that any other team did. Just as it is every year in the playoffs, whoever gets hot at the right time, whatever goalie gets hot at the right time, etc etc. What's the difference if the right time was the second week of April like normal or August 1st like this year?

TB also was the 2nd hottest team in 2020 so I don't know TBL team you were watching, they actually had an 11 game winning streak in February and a 10 game winning streak from late December into January. They're combined record in 2020 was 22-8-2, which is a 117 point pace over a full season. Are you sure about that?

And Vasy over his last 17 games had only 3 games where he let in more than 3 goals. he also had a .948 sv% in January and a .917 sv% in Feb and March. Idk what you're looking at man.

But one last thing, since when does any playoff resemble what happens in the RS??? When was the last presidents trophy team to win a SC? That's why hockey is great, you never know who's gonna win, it's all about getting hot at the right time. What does anything have to do with who was hot in march and who wasn't?? It's all about who gets hot at the right time, and they did!
 
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