I think Buffalo would consider that.

I don't think Anaheim gives up Gibson unless its a haul.

I dont think that starts the convo to get Gibson
Realistically Byram would have to be added but I think the ducks ask for newhook which would be a non starter for me personally.

I would rather keep jost and try to sign a guy like Demelo over Montour. Im not convience that Bellemare is a lock as the 4c so Jost in the mix would be a nice luxury

How far off do you think this offer is?

1st (#24) + 2nd + A-/B+ RHD prospect + B/C prospect*

(*Note: Mutala was ranked in the 1st round halfway through his draft year, but fell due to personal issues relating to his parents. He's since had a great season and is worth far more than where he was drafted).

Keep in mind that Gibson's stats this season were worse than Grubauer which is a minor factor, though i think it's fair to give Anaheim/Gibson the benefit of the doubt as their team sucked this year.

No thanks from Buffalo. You can have Colin Miller.

Why wouldn't you want Montour? What do you think his value is purely in terms of picks?

Montour is kind of mis-cast as an offensive Dman who needs OZ starts, but his real strength is in transitioning the puck from DZ to OZ, which would make him a perfect fit on a D pairing next to someone like Graves or Cole as the puckmover to help that bottom pairing transition the puck. If the cost is only Jost then I'd do that trade if Timmins is traded or unhealthy.

Agree with Melo over Montour. Or just keep Z and basically count on losing one of him or Graves to Seattle.

Also, what about an offer sheet for Georgiev? The Rangers have some cap issues and may have to let him go. Obviously he's no Gibson but all it might take is a second (and that's before getting something back for whichever of Gru or Frank is then traded).

No thanks on Colin Miller. I specifically only want Montour. As mentioned in the post just above this one his transition game would be a great fit on our team.

I don't think we need to OS Georgiev. Just trade for him if we want him. I'm not sure he's an upgrade on what we have already though, though he is younger which is a plus.

Montour for Compher?

I think Gibson is regarded as a top 3 goalie in the NHL by most people (being on a bad team hurts his stats some), at least top 5, so it would take more to have ANA trade him. He's only 27 and signed for 7 more years at an extremely reasonable $6.4m cap hit. The trade you have here is a late 1st, a 2nd, a B prospect (Timmins), and a C prospect (Mutala). It just isn't enticing enough for ANA to consider trading their best player. Gibson is too good, a great age, and has a perfect contract. Gibson has more value than anyone on the current COL team other than Makar and MacKinnon (Rantanen is close probably), so it will take more to get him. I don't think you would accept this package for Landeskog, Rantanen, etc. -- similarly, ANA wouldn't accept it for Gibson.

Hmm, interesting offer. Value is probably reasonably close.

What sort of AAV/term is Montour looking for on his next contract?

And what would you say Montour's value is purely in terms of picks?

Fair enough. Honestly I figure that it would take Newhook or Byram to make it happen but I'm not open to moving them.

Probably more favorable to OS in terms of compensation but trade could work. And yes age would be the main reason to go after him. That and health.

I think the leafs could agree to that. I think the ducks deal is pretty close. Maybe Just add Werner. I know you will here a ton of backlash from people here but goalies simply don’t carry that much value. Yes Gibson is young, great and on a good contract. But by the times the ducks are truly ready to contend he will be in his 30’s. Maybe by then they can trade back for him lol.

Montour is making a bit too much for what he is, hes another Zads but just a righty. There is talks that Buffalo might not even QO him so they can attempt to resign him as a lesser cap hit.
I dont htink hes worth it as a target.

Ducks ignore that offer.

I wouldn’t mind Jost either probably more added.
But Montour maybe a 2nd and 5th? He’s good in transition but is suffering in Kruegers system. He probably wants 4 million.

not interest in the OS route, especially for Georgiev. The whole idea of Avs looking intot he goalie market is getting a clear cut starter upgrades over Grubauer bc we are concerned about his health. Georgiev is not that, he is a back up who wants to be a starter but no on e knows he even has that ability.

Too risky to put all your goalie hopes in a more unproven goalie liek Georgiev in a 1A role

Jost isn't gonna work for him tho. Maybe Compher or a Jost/Zadorov pair maybe with a minor sweetener with Montour.

They took that risk with Frankie last year. Grubauer too actually. Here you get a year of both Georgiev and Grubauer. They can keep both longer term too.

They would need to pay him more than Frankie in order for the OS to work, but I don't see much of a downside otherwise.

Or maybe trade Frankie to NY and take on Smith's contract in exchange. That way they don't have to overpay on AAV.

but Frankie is a back up, and a back up only. Grubauer was a risk as a starter but it worked out as he has shown he can be a starter just cant stay healthy. But thast what I mean with getting a clear cut number 1 upgrade if they do a goalie move....Georgiev is teh same risk again and I dont thinkt hey can take that risk going against the cup window clock now.

i have no issues with trying to ugprade at Net, but its for established starter who more or less fit their timeline of cup contending, the experiment and reclamation projects pick ups shouldnt be their target.

To me that starts and stops wiht Lehner if he goes to market...bc the Murrays, Georgiev, Andersons of the world, I dont think hey are upgrades over Grubauer. You are just kicking the can down the road

It’s gonna take Timmins + Newhook + 2020 first to get the Ducks to even talk about Gibson

Yes Frankie is a backup. Georgiev is also a backup but with a starter ceiling. It's a low risk, high reward move. They still have Grubauer. The difference is that the new 1b could end up being a long term solution. Might be worth the shot, as the other options also have some negatives (i.e. giving up Timmins plus in the above).

Its a bits a high risk as well, bc it could be another year of not solving the avs most uncertain position, I think it just adds more uncertainty and you are banking on the hopes that either Grubauer stays healthy, or Georgiev reaches that level of starter potential.

I really think Sakic is going to try to minimize the risk at the position and avoid a Georgiev. He would be fine if they moved both Frankie and Grubi and you h ave Georgiev as the 1B ...but I cant see them doing a double overhaul of the goalie tandem .

Just adding Georgiev type goalie isnt enough to give you that confidence in net

Adams has already said Montour will get qualified