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Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2020
Published: Sep. 11, 2020
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Wennberg is a gamble i would consider after all other options failed. CBJ needs scoring and Donato (a one trick, goal scoring pony) needs and deserves a new lease on life. Anderson and Wennberg might be in the same boat. Zuccarello might actually fit very well with Kaprizov, but i would prefer to just move on from him. For the record, i have no issues with his game. It’s his contract I abhor!
What should Dunn’s next contract look like???
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  1. Donato, Ryan
  2. Staal, Eric
  3. Zuccarello, Mats
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Zuccarello at 5.5m isn’t horrible. The term is still too much, but he is still a good player.
Staal is a stop gap center for CBJ.
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MIN
  1. Danault, Phillip
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Very similar players impact and talent-wise + Same contract situation + Same age + Fill needs for acquiring team = Great Trade.
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MIN
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
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I have no idea how close i am here value-wise... Please help
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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Dunn is not available, and even if he was that offer is a farce.
Sep. 11, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.
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“Very similar players impact and talent-wise” - Maybe
“Same contract situation” - Yes
“Same age” - Yes
“Fill needs for acquiring team” - Absolutely not.

We don’t need LHD, especially not a pending UFA.
Sep. 11, 2020 at 11:52 a.m.
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Habs trade is good, suits both teams and is a pure hockey trade. I feel like they might ask a bit more for Danault since he's a French player they're moving, but value wise it's good.

You're asking Columbus (a low budget team) to take on too much salary for not much of an incentive. Staal is past is prime and while has performed well, could decline at any moment. Zuccarello just isn't worth his contract and neither is a Donato. Wennberg had a decent season but is still younger and could rebound, same for Anderson. I think that's an easy pass for the Jackets.

Dunn will be a tough one to get outta St. Louis. They need young impact players and he's they're too LHD. This offer just doesn't do anything for them. They'd need a young, controllable d-man going back and Minnesota just doesn't have any of those. Teams don't match up for a Dunn trade at all
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
“Very similar players impact and talent-wise” - Maybe
“Same contract situation” - Yes
“Same age” - Yes
“Fill needs for acquiring team” - Absolutely not.

We don’t need LHD, especially not a pending UFA.


Yes they do. & Brodin instantly becomes Montreal's 2nd best d-man. It's a good deal actually
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
“Very similar players impact and talent-wise” - Maybe
“Same contract situation” - Yes
“Same age” - Yes
“Fill needs for acquiring team” - Absolutely not.

We don’t need LHD, especially not a pending UFA.


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Yes they do. & Brodin instantly becomes Montreal's 2nd best d-man. It's a good deal actually


Chiarot has proven he could fill top 4 role. To me, Kulak played on a like a top 4 during playoffs, and at times during the season.

It's all about how much Bergevin trust Kulak to get big minutes during Romanov's developement (they believe he'll be a top 4 too), i.e. for at least this year. Let's not forget others LD push (Norlinder, Harris, Struble)

Bergevin said he wasn't sure about Kulak constancy. Getting a top 4 is a possibility even with the good amount of LD prospects. Kulak can be tried at RD on 3rd pair (Brodin, Chiarot and Romanov at LD)

I'd like to include Mete in that trade. Something like Danault+Mete vs Brodin+Greenway. Not sure I'd do it, but MTL would have too much LD with Brodin
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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Chiarot has proven he could fill top 4 role. To me, Kulak played on a like a top 4 during playoffs, and at times during the season.

It's all about how much Bergevin trust Kulak to get big minutes during Romanov's developement (they believe he'll be a top 4 too), i.e. for at least this year. Let's not forget others LD push (Norlinder, Harris, Struble)

Bergevin said he wasn't sure about Kulak constancy. Getting a top 4 is a possibility even with the good amount of LD prospects. Kulak can be tried at RD on 3rd pair (Brodin, Chiarot and Romanov at LD)

I'd like to include Mete in that trade. Something like Danault+Mete vs Brodin+Greenway. Not sure I'd do it, but MTL would have too much LD with Brodin


Could i get Kulak instead of Mete?
Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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Could i get Kulak instead of Mete?


While Danault & Brodin can be compared, Greenway & Mete too (age, contract, value, needs)
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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Habs trade is laughable. Danault >>> Brodin
Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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While Danault & Brodin can be compared, Greenway & Mete too (age, contract, value, needs)


What would you consider Mete’s floor and ceiling?
Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Habs trade is laughable. Danault >>> Brodin


Did you move to Montreal from Toronto???
Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.
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What would you consider Mete’s floor and ceiling?


From Proman's 2020 organizational rankings (The Athetic)

"Mete has played three full NHL seasons where he’s been a modest-scoring defenseman who has played third-pair minutes. His skating is clearly the best aspect of his game. His edgework, and especially his speed, are elite and allow him to push the pace when leading attacks up the ice. There isn’t a lot about his game that dazzles outside his skating. He’s a smart passer who makes good outlets and has some blue line creativity, but I don’t think his puck game wows and as a 5-foot-9 defender it’s hard to see him as a “tough matchups” type. I think there’s enough to his skill set that he could progress into a league-average defenseman but it would be nice to see his game take a big step soon."

He's optimistic with his "Very good NHL player" tier classification. I doubt he'll ever be a top 4 because even though he has good skating, he doesnt have offensive skills and will never win most of his physical fights. He still has some untapped potential
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.
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You're asking Columbus (a low budget team) to take on too much salary for not much of an incentive. Staal is last is prime and while has performed well, could decline at any moment. Zuccarello just isn't worth his contract and neither is a Donato. Wennberg has a decent season but is still younger and could rebound, same for Anderson. I think that's an easy pass for the Jackets.


I think you've got a good read on this. Remove Zuccarello and it's a consideration, but the fact remains that Anderson (when healthy, which he should be coming into December) is easily the most impactful player in this trade. And if Columbus can sign him long-term at a reasonable price (as has been recently rumored), then it's an easy decision.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:30 p.m.
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Columbus can’t make that trade. We don’t want and have no room for Zuccarello.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:01 p.m.
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Chiarot has proven he could fill top 4 role. To me, Kulak played on a like a top 4 during playoffs, and at times during the season.

It's all about how much Bergevin trust Kulak to get big minutes during Romanov's developement (they believe he'll be a top 4 too), i.e. for at least this year. Let's not forget others LD push (Norlinder, Harris, Struble)

Bergevin said he wasn't sure about Kulak constancy. Getting a top 4 is a possibility even with the good amount of LD prospects. Kulak can be tried at RD on 3rd pair (Brodin, Chiarot and Romanov at LD)

I'd like to include Mete in that trade. Something like Danault+Mete vs Brodin+Greenway. Not sure I'd do it, but MTL would have too much LD with Brodin


The problem is that even if you subscribe to the idea that this year matters, taking out Danault and adding Brodin is making our team worse. Kulak with Petry is considerably better than Kulak without Petry, and without Danault we’d be without a doubt the worst face off team in the league. We should try to sign Danault, and if we can’t, then we try to trade him somewhere where we can get full value, instead of a pending UFA that even if we re-sign him, we’ll lose Chiarot to expansion. If we can’t re-sign him, then we squander any value we can get for Danault, and make our team worse this year.
Sep. 12, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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“Very similar players impact and talent-wise” - Maybe
“Same contract situation” - Yes
“Same age” - Yes
“Fill needs for acquiring team” - Absolutely not.

We don’t need LHD, especially not a pending UFA.


... you sure about that?
Sep. 12, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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... you sure about that?


Edmundson isn’t a pending UFA, he’s a UFA, meaning we’ll probably sign him to as long as we want. And Danault isn’t a 5th round pick.
Sep. 12, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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Edmundson isn’t a pending UFA, he’s a UFA, meaning we’ll probably sign him to as long as we want. And Danault isn’t a 5th round pick.


You said the team doesn't want a LD and especially one that's not an impending UFA. That's exactly what Edmundson is. So you were wrong.

Danault isn't going to be signing an extension in Montreal anyways so it's smart to trade him while his value is still high.
Sep. 12, 2020 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
You said the team doesn't want a LD and especially one that's not an impending UFA. That's exactly what Edmundson is. So you were wrong.

Danault isn't going to be signing an extension in Montreal anyways so it's smart to trade him while his value is still high.


That wasn’t what I meant by pending UFA. And I don’t understand why the habs did this. Maybe there’s an injury we don’t know about, or Bergevin plans to trade away someone else?

And I never said anything about what we should do with Danault, other than that we shouldn’t trade him for Brodin.
 
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