Trading Ehlers and Laine

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Created by: TrueNorth

Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2020

Published: Sep. 11, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If you trade one, you had better trade both because they will be pouty that their bromance is over.

Jets sign Alexander Holtz #7 OA and Jake Sanderson #10 OA

Overall...

Top 6 has less high end talent and bottom 6 is similar (Rosy, Copp, Lowry, Harkins, Appleton are all more seasoned, Zajac set to retire in hometown).
Greatly improved Defense with the additions of Slavin, Severson and Edmundson.
Goaltending is still 70+ games for Helly. Berdin = Brossoit
Two great adds to the prospect pool with Holtz and Sanderson.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Domi, Max	5	$5,500,000
Roslovic, Jack	2	$2,250,000
Appleton, Mason	2	$900,000
Harkins, Jansen	2	$900,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Haula, Erik		3	$4,000,000
Edmundson, Joel		3	$3,500,000

Trades

WPG

Severson, Damon
Zajac, Travis ($2,000,000 retained)
2020 1st round pick (NJD)

NJD

Ehlers, Nikolaj
Niku, Sami [RFA Rights]
2020 2nd round pick (WPG)

WPG

CAR

Laine, Patrik

WPG

Domi, Max [RFA Rights]

MTL

Perreault, Mathieu
Vesalainen, Kristian
2021 2nd round pick (WPG)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$78,442,857	$0	$282,500	$3,057,143

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 6	Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Haula, Erik $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Domi, Max $5,500,000$5,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Trocheck, Vincent $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Harkins, Jansen $900,000$900,000 LW UFA - 2	Zajac, Travis $875,000$875,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Roslovic, Jack $2,250,000$2,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Copp, Andrew $2,280,000$2,280,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam $2,916,667$2,916,667 C UFA - 1	Appleton, Mason $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 2
	Gustafsson, David $817,500$817,500 ($132,500$132K) LW, C RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD UFA - 5	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 3	Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 4
Morrissey, Joshua $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD UFA - 8	Pionk, Neal $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Berdin, Mikhail $758,333$758,333 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Poolman, Tucker $775,000$775,000 RD UFA - 1
Heinola, Ville $894,167$894,167 LD RFA - 4	Samberg, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($150,000$150K) LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Little, Bryan $5,291,667$5,291,667 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 4

Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.

BorisBagels211

BorisBagel

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Habs decline

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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NJD deal - looks ok from value standpoint, NJD probably asks for someone other than Niku though

CAR deal - I think WPG adds a tiny bit...maybe WPG takes Nino instead of Trocheck (if playing at winger)

MTL deal - doubt Habs want either of those guys

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.

Caniac2000

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Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.

Book_Hockey

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact

I was going to say this as well- I think Pesce and Trocheck is better from a value standpoint, although I still do not believe Carolina makes that deal.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.

CanesTings

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Carolina would never take that deal as it makes them significantly worse unless laine starts scoring 70 a season

Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

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Add 2 firsts and maybe CAR takes it. Maybe

Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.

zyyyp

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very interesting offer. I love Ehlers, would love to see him on the Devils but I can't see them moving 7th overall for anyone unless in a package for Laine (I wish). I would give 18th + 20th + Foote or something like that but I don't think I'd be comfortable moving 7 for Ehlers.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.

TrueNorth

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Quoting: BorisBagels211

Habs decline

What do you see as fair value from Winnipeg for Domi?

Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.

TrueNorth

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact

I guess that I haven't appreciated Slavin's game enough to think that his value exceeds Laine's

Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.

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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

Add 2 firsts and maybe CAR takes it. Maybe

So your counter-proposal would be Laine and 2020 1st + 2021 1st round picks for Slavin and Trochek? I don't think anyone but Slavin's mom would think that is a fair deal.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.

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Quoting: TrueNorth

So your counter-proposal would be Laine and 2020 1st + 2021 1st round picks for Slavin and Trochek? I don't think anyone but Slavin's mom would think that is a fair deal.

That's closer in value than this is to be honest

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

That's closer in value than this is to be honest

(Neutral party here)

Laine + Heinola + 2020 #10 pick for Slavin + Trocheck + 2nd

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.

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BorisBagels211

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Quoting: TrueNorth

What do you see as fair value from Winnipeg for Domi?

Domi signed & 1st rounder for Ehlers & 2nd rounder

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

(Neutral party here)

Laine + Heinola + 2020 #10 pick for Slavin + Trocheck + 2nd

Canes laugh that away.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.

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Quoting: BorisBagels211

Domi signed & 1st rounder for Ehlers & 2nd rounder

That doesn't fill any holes for Winnipeg, it just moves the hole from center to wing. Winnipeg would say no.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Canes laugh that away.

No they wouldn’t.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.

#17

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

No they wouldn’t.

Yeah, they would. Slavin is worth Laine +, adding Trocheck needs more than some futures that don't help a team trying to contend. Something like Laine + Ehlers may entertain them, that though is garbage

Sep. 11, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.

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BorisBagels211

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Quoting: Windjammer

That doesn't fill any holes for Winnipeg, it just moves the hole from center to wing. Winnipeg would say no.

Domi had 70+ points as a full-time centre in his 1st season with Habs

Sep. 11, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.

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Quoting: BorisBagels211

Domi had 70+ points as a full-time centre in his 1st season with Habs

Okay, but that still means the Jets move the hole from center to wing, so no holes are filled, just moved. With Domi's new agent he's either looking to get overpaid long term or force his way to UFA in two years, so Winnipeg won't move 5 guaranteed years of Ehlers for that. Sorry.

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