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Trading Ehlers and Laine

Created by: TrueNorth
Initial Creation Date: Sep 8, 2020
Published: Sep 11, 2020 at 12:20
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
If you trade one, you had better trade both because they will be pouty that their bromance is over.

Jets sign Alexander Holtz #7 OA and Jake Sanderson #10 OA

Overall...

Top 6 has less high end talent and bottom 6 is similar (Rosy, Copp, Lowry, Harkins, Appleton are all more seasoned, Zajac set to retire in hometown).
Greatly improved Defense with the additions of Slavin, Severson and Edmundson.
Goaltending is still 70+ games for Helly. Berdin = Brossoit
Two great adds to the prospect pool with Holtz and Sanderson.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max5$5,500,000
Roslovic, Jack2$2,250,000
Appleton, Mason2$900,000
Harkins, Jansen2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Haula, Erik3$4,000,000
Edmundson, Joel3$3,500,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Severson, Damon
  2. Zajac, Travis ($2,000,000 retained)
  3. 2020 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
  2. Niku, Sami [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Slavin, Jaccob
  2. Trocheck, Vincent
CAR
  1. Laine, Patrik
WPG
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
MTL
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patrik Laine: $1,755,000 (26%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
NJD
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$83,072,855$0$282,500-$1,572,855
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Haula, Erik
$4,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Domi, Max
$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
CAR
Trocheck, Vincent
$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$900,000
LW
RFA - 2
NJD
Zajac, Travis
$3,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$2,250,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Gustafsson, David
$817,500
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
NJD
Severson, Damon
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Berdin, Mikhail
$758,333
G
RFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Samberg, Dylan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4

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Sep 11, 2020 at 12:24
#1
BorisBagel
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Habs decline
Sep 11, 2020 at 12:25
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NJD deal - looks ok from value standpoint, NJD probably asks for someone other than Niku though

CAR deal - I think WPG adds a tiny bit...maybe WPG takes Nino instead of Trocheck (if playing at winger)

MTL deal - doubt Habs want either of those guys
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Sep 11, 2020 at 12:27
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Miss the Thrashers
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Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact
Sep 11, 2020 at 12:30
#4
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact


I was going to say this as well- I think Pesce and Trocheck is better from a value standpoint, although I still do not believe Carolina makes that deal.
Sep 11, 2020 at 12:33
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Carolina would never take that deal as it makes them significantly worse unless laine starts scoring 70 a season
Sep 11, 2020 at 12:54
#6
StarWars addict here
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Add 2 firsts and maybe CAR takes it. Maybe
Sep 11, 2020 at 1:07
#7
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very interesting offer. I love Ehlers, would love to see him on the Devils but I can't see them moving 7th overall for anyone unless in a package for Laine (I wish). I would give 18th + 20th + Foote or something like that but I don't think I'd be comfortable moving 7 for Ehlers.
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Sep 11, 2020 at 1:38
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TrueNorth
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Quoting: BorisBagels211
Habs decline


What do you see as fair value from Winnipeg for Domi?
Sep 11, 2020 at 1:40
#9
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TrueNorth
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina pass HARD. Carolina should not be adding to Slavin for Laine, quite the opposite in fact


I guess that I haven't appreciated Slavin's game enough to think that his value exceeds Laine's
Sep 11, 2020 at 1:43
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TrueNorth
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Add 2 firsts and maybe CAR takes it. Maybe


So your counter-proposal would be Laine and 2020 1st + 2021 1st round picks for Slavin and Trochek? I don't think anyone but Slavin's mom would think that is a fair deal.
Sep 11, 2020 at 1:54
#11
Miss the Thrashers
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Quoting: TrueNorth
So your counter-proposal would be Laine and 2020 1st + 2021 1st round picks for Slavin and Trochek? I don't think anyone but Slavin's mom would think that is a fair deal.


That's closer in value than this is to be honest
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:01
#12
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That's closer in value than this is to be honest


(Neutral party here)

Laine + Heinola + 2020 #10 pick for Slavin + Trocheck + 2nd
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:13
#13
BorisBagel
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Quoting: TrueNorth
What do you see as fair value from Winnipeg for Domi?


Domi signed & 1st rounder for Ehlers & 2nd rounder
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:13
#14
Miss the Thrashers
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
(Neutral party here)

Laine + Heinola + 2020 #10 pick for Slavin + Trocheck + 2nd


Canes laugh that away.
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:21
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Quoting: BorisBagels211
Domi signed & 1st rounder for Ehlers & 2nd rounder


That doesn't fill any holes for Winnipeg, it just moves the hole from center to wing. Winnipeg would say no.
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:22
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Canes laugh that away.


No they wouldn’t.
Sep 11, 2020 at 2:46
#17
Miss the Thrashers
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
No they wouldn’t.


Yeah, they would. Slavin is worth Laine +, adding Trocheck needs more than some futures that don't help a team trying to contend. Something like Laine + Ehlers may entertain them, that though is garbage
Sep 11, 2020 at 5:20
#18
BorisBagel
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Quoting: Windjammer
That doesn't fill any holes for Winnipeg, it just moves the hole from center to wing. Winnipeg would say no.

Domi had 70+ points as a full-time centre in his 1st season with Habs
Sep 11, 2020 at 5:25
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Quoting: BorisBagels211
Domi had 70+ points as a full-time centre in his 1st season with Habs


Okay, but that still means the Jets move the hole from center to wing, so no holes are filled, just moved. With Domi's new agent he's either looking to get overpaid long term or force his way to UFA in two years, so Winnipeg won't move 5 guaranteed years of Ehlers for that. Sorry.
 
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