Sergachev for Drouin seems like a fair trade

Pretty tough to get this team under the salary cap for next season. There is no way they keep Cirelli and Sergachev.

Even if the guys with NTC's waive its going to be very difficult to find a team willing to take on their contracts, especially when many teams are considering internal salary caps for next year.

It was three years ago :-)

Bolts need to keep Sergachev, id rather trade Killorn, Palat and Johnson to create cap space and resign Cernak and Cirelli

Heard of NTC's?

Edit:
Even if they waive, GM's aren't interested in Palat and Johnson unless you are giving them away. They would rather take your RFA's.

Tamp says "no thanks" and "keep dreaming"

I have a feeling we could get Killorn for cheeper, because Tampa needs the cap space. I value Puljujarvi super high as well.

minimum 2 players short and little cap space...

All 30 teams say "good luck tampa", and offersheet Sergachev for less compensation. Seriously dude look at their roster. 20 players barely fit even after trading Sergachev, Paquette, and Killorn for $1M or less replacements.

Palat, Johnson, and Killorn all have modified NTC's. they can easily be traded without their consent and there's $15M of cap opened up

Palat and Johnson full NTC

You trying to argue with me? I know for a fact that there are GM's highly interested in these three guys, they're good hockey players still, just highly overpaid and under utilized, and if they'll go to a team in which they don't mind going to, I'm sure they'll waive their NTC

No they don't. Palat and Johnson have 2020-21 of full NTC. Gourde has 2020-22 of full NTC. Killorn is the only one with a M-NTC currently.

Of all the players I could see waiving is Johnson since he will liekly be traded next year anyways so he might as well get traded while he has more control over his destination with his full NMC. That's actually something I never considered until now.

you wanna go bro?

This season creates special circumstances. Lots of teams are reportedly setting internal salary caps due to covid. Lots of other teams were also counting on the cap to go up as well, so they don't have extra $$$ to go help TB.

There will not be many circumstances where a team is going to have:
1. Interested in the player.
2. Player interested in waiving NTC for the team.
3. Team having cap space to fit that player.

In most cases if the team has cap space to fit a Tyler Johnson or a Palat, then they have cap space to offersheet Cirelli or Sergachev. So unless TB is gonna give Palat away for almost nothing but cap space, or give picks to move Johnson or a guy like Gourde, then why would the team not just offersheet Cirelli or Sergachev, who you yourself are saying you would rather have?

I could see them moving Johnson since he likely knows he's gone in 2021-22 anyways, if they find a fit he likes he might as well take it when he has a full NTC because in 2021-22 he won't get that. Depends what he wants i guess and if the team he wants to go to can fit him.

I agree. Tyler normally plays big in playoffs, this year not so much. Wild need centers and Tyler has a very good friend on the team (rumors I have not confirmed). Maybe add a third and get back a fifth. Wild can then expose him next year at the draft and he may get to go home to Seattle. I think put Tyler w good players and he will put up 50 points and play a respectable defensive game.

Minnesota and winnipeg were the first two places that came to mind for good fits. They would definitely be interested if he came with a pick, whether or not Johnson would agree I don’t know but it makes a lot of sense for those teams.

Mis-read by a year, my bad

Why would Sergachev leave one of the best teams in the league to join a non playoff team? Tampa even has taxes. What would they offer sheet him for cause Tampa will match anything less then 5mil

Well sir, please do tell how TB can match a $5M offersheet with only $1.6M in caps space after removing Mete?

If TB let's it come to an offersheet they are screwed. "Hey Johnson Sergachev over there signed an offersheet do you mind waiving your no trade clause so we can get rid of you and keep him instead, no? Ok"

Its just math.

if they don't do this trade they can afford Sergachev. And plus you think players Sergachev will just take the OS. Think. Would you rather take less money and stay with the best team in the league, or go to a mediocre team for a bit more money? Math eh

Are you trolling me?

Do you understand how a salary cap works? You can't go over.

If they don't do that trade they have $1.6M to sign Sergachev assuming they also trade Paquette and Killorn for ELC's level $$$ in other trades.

I would offersheet Sergachev for $6.341M and give a compensation of a 1st and a 3rd which is more of a steal than the trade that was offered.

$6.341 vs $1.6M is not a little less money to stay with the best team in the league. Its almost $5M. Taxes doesn't even come close to making up that difference.

The only way TB can make this work is if they can convince someone to waive their NTC, which is definitely far from guaranteed.

I'm not trolling

You can go 10% over in the off season but have to be compliant by the reg season

I'm sure a team like Colorado would be interested in one of Johnson/Palat/Gourde. That should help out tampa

No team in the NHL is bailing out Tampa with those contracts. They will hold them hostage and take those RFAs. The move is to attach a contract with Sergachev, and hope it opens enough space for Cirelli. Even then it'll be tough!

Agreed, Tampa easily makes it work by moving just one of TJ/Gourde/Palat. About 95% Serg and Cirelli, like all the other Tampa rfas, will take a bridge. It seems like a very minimal chance they're leaving a top 5 cup contender for a cellar dweller or fringe playoff team for a little more $. Just moving Killorn and Paquette solves that and then some.

Most of the other signings are either going to be at or close to league min. Moving Johnson is the most likely scenario given his reduced playing time here and having more control over where he goes now vs after next year. That frees up enough space easily for Cernak and pretty much everybody else they're likely thinking about internally. A buy out is also possible, although that likely only happens as a last resort or if they have worked something short term and team friendly with Cernak.