Montreal is back with Hall and Laine

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Created by: NickDerose

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2020

Published: Sep. 11, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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1. I trade Charlie Lindgren to LA because we don't have space for him anymore in our roster due to emergence of Cayden Primeau. LA need to replace Kevin Poulin in AHL because they will not resign him, so a 6th round pick is fair enough for both team.

2. I move Paul Byron to Buffalo, because we are going to need cap space for my next moves and I don't want to let him play on my 4th line in Montreal. I trade him to Buffalo because they need a left winger to play on their 3rd line. Also, the speed and defensive skills of Byron will complete their actual roster and they have cap space for him.

3. My first big move is to bring Patrick Laine to Montreal. First of all, we need to understand that Winnipeg want to add depth in centerman and defenseman. They need help immediately in their roster and potential prospects for their future. So my offer is going to be Max Domi (C) + Victor Mete (D) for immediate help. I add two B+ prospects like Ryan Poehling (C + 1st rounder in 2017) and Jayden Struble (D + 2nd rounder in 2019). Finally, because Laine has a high market value I need to overpaid for him, so I add my 1st round in 2021, 2nd round in 2022 and 3rd rounder in 2021.

4. I sign Taylor Hall for a 9 000 000$/ 7 years. I took recent contract of Jeff Skinner, Mark Stone and Blake Wheeler in comparaison for my offer to Hall. I suppose that he want to have a long term contract after his 4th team in career so I give max length to make sure he will accept.

After these moves, Montreal is going to be back as a serious contender, they have now a huge offensive punch, and I consider that I still conserve a respectable draft picks bank and prospects pool.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Domi, Max	2	$5,000,000
Evans, Jake	2	$950,000
Juulsen, Noah	2	$950,000
McNiven, Michael	2	$800,000
Mete, Victor	2	$1,200,000
Waked, Antoine	2	$750,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hall, Taylor		7	$9,000,000

Trades

MTL

2021 6th round pick (LAK)

LAK

Lindgren, Charlie

MTL

2022 3rd round pick (BUF)

BUF

Byron, Paul

MTL

Laine, Patrik

WPG

Domi, Max
Mete, Victor
Poehling, Ryan
Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
2021 1st round pick (MTL)
2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
2022 2nd round pick (MTL)

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$76,542,976	$0	$3,137,500	$4,957,024

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hall, Taylor $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2	Laine, Patrik $4,995,000$4,995,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Evans, Jake $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 2	Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 6
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Allen, Jake $4,350,000$4,350,000 G UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Juulsen, Noah $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hall, T.		Suzuki, N.		Drouin, J.
	Laine, P.		Weber, S.

Power Play 2
Tatar, T.		Kotkaniemi, J.		Gallagher, B.
	Romanov, A.		Petry, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Danault, P.	Armia, J.
	Romanov, A.	Weber, S.

Penalty Kill 2
	Suzuki, N.	Lehkonen, A.
	Chiarot, B.	Juulsen, N.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.

burner_raven

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Cap hell incoming

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.

CallingOutHomers

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Quoting: burner_raven

Cap hell incoming

better win the cup, otherwise they're rebuilding before the current rebuild is done.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.

Windjammer

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That would be an easy and certain no from Winnipeg. According to reports when terms ask Chevy about Ehlers or Laine, Chevy's ask is rightfully astronomically high. So, a quantity for quality offer wouldn't be entertained in the slightest.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.

KPasty

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Quoting: Windjammer

As he should be. He wants a good hockey deal with quality not a bunch of spot fillers, picks and futures.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.

Lenny7

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-Charlie Lindgren needs to clear waivers, why would they send a pick for him, when Montreal is going to need to waive him so given that LA should be high on the waiver claim list, they might as well just wait for them to do it if he's their guy.

I'll skip all the way to the last line: "After these moves, Montreal is going to be back as a serious contender, they have now a huge offensive punch, and I consider that I still conserve a respectable draft picks bank and prospects pool", and answer with "Bye bye cap space in 2021, and now you lose 2 or 3 of Petry, Gallagher, KK, Danault, Tatar, Lehkonen, because you can't afford to resign them raises and also resign Laine."

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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I’d say do one or the other to protect cap. Hall or Laine.

Also, WPG ought to consider that. Even though it’s a quantity for quality. That is 4-5 good pieces.

We are likely to have a flat cap for a few years. I imagine it could actually go down (along with compliance buyouts).

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.

Wreckless

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Quoting: Windjammer

LOL. Chevy would rightfully take that in a heartbeat even without the 1st rounder.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.

Wreckless

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Quoting: burner_raven

Cap hell incoming

Tatar can be moved and Alzner, Weal, & Allen can all come off the books if necessary. There are potential solutions to everything.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.

csick

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Start with Domi + Caufield + Fleury and 2020 1st

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.

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Wreckless

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NickDeRose,
If we sign Domi (or if it goes to arb), I'm guessing it'll be for 1 year.
I don't think Evans gets more than NHL minimum salary (with the 1st year being a two way deal, he's still waiver exempt).
Juulsen I'm really not sure how to value, but as a comparable I can see him getting close to Jacob Larrson's two year deal.
I'm guessing that we don't offer QOs to either McNiven or Waked.
Mete at under $1.5mm gets zero offer sheet compensation, and I think a team like Ottawa or many others would easily sign him to that (looking at the Reilly deal last summer and how he ultimately ended up in Ottawa for a late pick).

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.

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Wreckless

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Quoting: csick

Start with Domi + Caufield + Fleury and 2020 1st

Too much. Domi, just one of the two between Caufield and a 1st, and Fleury would make sense.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Wreckless

Too much. Domi, just one of the two between Caufield and a 1st, and Fleury would make sense.

Laine is a generational talent from the breed of the Ovechkins. That doesn’t come for cheap

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: Wreckless

Tatar can be moved and Alzner, Weal, & Allen can all come off the books if necessary. There are potential solutions to everything.

Exactly, after this season we can figure out which player you want to keep and which you will not renew their contract.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: csick

Laine is a generational talent from the breed of the Ovechkins. That doesn’t come for cheap

That's why I honestly consider my original offer as a good value in exchange for Laine

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: NickDerose

That's why I honestly consider my original offer as a good value in exchange for Laine

Top 6F (Domi) + A level prospect (Caufield) + another good young player (Juulsen or Fleury or Mete or Lehkonen) + 2020 1st

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: csick

Start with Domi + Caufield + Fleury and 2020 1st

Totally make sens for me too. I would suggest these two offer to Chevy

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: Windjammer

It's your opinion on that trade, but many persons like my offer too for Laine even if you consider it's a quantity deal. Domi as a center worth a good value and Winnipeg needs to replace Litlle as 2nd centerman so it's a good fit. Add whatever you want after that in quality if you want like Caufield or other.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

You have the option to not renew contract of Tatar or Danault to save money next year. With my line up, they're going to be on my 3rd line, so I can figure a trade for these players if you need space after the season

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: Lenny7

Not that much, we are going to have more than 36 millions in cap space to renew all these contracts. For sure, we are not going to have enough for everybody, but eventually we aren't keep everyone too. With Hall and Laine, and the emergence of Suzuki and KK, I don't have problem to let Tatar and Danault to move away.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: burner_raven

Cap hell incoming

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: NickDerose

True. Everything here is our opinions and the only fans who like your deal are Montreal fans. As I said above, from the reports from hockey insiders we're hearing when a GM inquires about Laine or Ehlers that Chevy's ask is astronomical and your offer isn't that and Chevy's ask is the only one that really matters.

Logically, though why would Winnipeg fix a small hole at 2C, by creating a massive hole at wing and not fixing any other problems?

If this is the best offer Winnipeg received, it is a guarantee that Chevy keeps Laine. Again from the hockey insiders, the only way Laine or Ehlers move is if Chevy is blown away by an offer. So, it's not a matter of whether you believe your offer is fair, it's just that realistically Chevy wouldn't make the trade.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.

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DropMcCockiner

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Some people’s value on Laine is absolutely ridiculous, look at the mark stone trade, that’s about what you would get back probably a little higher because of age.

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: Windjammer

Calm down the massive hole at wing, they still have few players to replace Laine and with a 2nd center, they will bring back Wheeler as a wing. But I respect your tought about it.

Sep. 11, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.

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NickDerose

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Quoting: DropMcCockiner

Some people’s value on Laine is absolutely ridiculous, look at the mark stone trade, that’s about what you would get back probably a little higher because of age.

Totally true !

Sep. 11, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.

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The last thing buffalo needs is more left wingers. Especially overpaid third line left wingers. Hard no.

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