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Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2020
Published: Sep. 11, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
1$800,000
1$1,000,000
1$900,000
4$3,750,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Sörensen, Marcus ($500,000 retained)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,011,666$0$577,500$8,488,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
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$768,333$768,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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Expecting a bottom-10 position in the league with that roster...
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Expecting a bottom-10 position in the league with that roster...


Imo this team would be pretty good but they’d need a miracle to make the cap work:

Killorn-Couture-Meier
Kane-Hertl-Labanc
Johnsson-Thornton-Maroon
Kellman-Gregor-True

Ferraro-Karlsson
Simek-Burns
Vlasic-Merkley/UFA

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Imo this team would be pretty good but they’d need a miracle to make the cap work:

Killorn-Couture-Meier
Kane-Hertl-Labanc
Johnsson-Thornton-Maroon
Kellman-Gregor-True

Ferraro-Karlsson
Simek-Burns
Vlasic-Merkley/UFA

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That team is pretty much made for playoff hockey - but I don't see them reaching that far.

Also injuries and cap space will absolutely kill this "dream" of sorts.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 5:07 p.m.
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where do I start on whats wrong with this:
- Labanc gets more
- Meier with Couture over Labanc
- Gregor is not 3C
- Noesen is not 3RW
- Melker Karlsson is not coming back, especially for anything more than league min
- Doubt Bergmann ever gets an NHL game again.
- Goal tending is atrocious, #1 priority is to bring in a 1A/B type goalie who can split games
- Middleton is not NHL material, and I doubt he is coming back (brother already left)
- Dahlen is staying in Sweden
- Simek is absolutely not playing with Karlsson, it would be Vlasic or Ferraro.



- Sharks need a better player than Johnsson, and preference is not a LW.
- Sharks need much more forward depth.
- 500k could very much be the difference between Talbot, Greiss and Khudobin. No way SJ is retaining any sort of cap unless its on a player like Burns.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
where do I start on whats wrong with this:
- Labanc gets more
- Meier with Couture over Labanc
- Gregor is not 3C
- Noesen is not 3RW
- Melker Karlsson is not coming back, especially for anything more than league min
- Doubt Bergmann ever gets an NHL game again.
- Goal tending is atrocious, #1 priority is to bring in a 1A/B type goalie who can split games
- Middleton is not NHL material, and I doubt he is coming back (brother already left)
- Dahlen is staying in Sweden
- Simek is absolutely not playing with Karlsson, it would be Vlasic or Ferraro.



- Sharks need a better player than Johnsson, and preference is not a LW.
- Sharks need much more forward depth.
- 500k could very much be the difference between Talbot, Greiss and Khudobin. No way SJ is retaining any sort of cap unless its on a player like Burns.


In other words, it's a disaster tears of joy
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
where do I start on whats wrong with this:
- Labanc gets more
- Meier with Couture over Labanc
- Gregor is not 3C
- Noesen is not 3RW
- Melker Karlsson is not coming back, especially for anything more than league min
- Doubt Bergmann ever gets an NHL game again.
- Goal tending is atrocious, #1 priority is to bring in a 1A/B type goalie who can split games
- Middleton is not NHL material, and I doubt he is coming back (brother already left)
- Dahlen is staying in Sweden
- Simek is absolutely not playing with Karlsson, it would be Vlasic or Ferraro.



- Sharks need a better player than Johnsson, and preference is not a LW.
- Sharks need much more forward depth.
- 500k could very much be the difference between Talbot, Greiss and Khudobin. No way SJ is retaining any sort of cap unless its on a player like Burns.


Ditto
Sep. 11, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
where do I start on whats wrong with this:
- Labanc gets more
- Meier with Couture over Labanc
- Gregor is not 3C
- Noesen is not 3RW
- Melker Karlsson is not coming back, especially for anything more than league min
- Doubt Bergmann ever gets an NHL game again.
- Goal tending is atrocious, #1 priority is to bring in a 1A/B type goalie who can split games
- Middleton is not NHL material, and I doubt he is coming back (brother already left)
- Dahlen is staying in Sweden
- Simek is absolutely not playing with Karlsson, it would be Vlasic or Ferraro.



- Sharks need a better player than Johnsson, and preference is not a LW.
- Sharks need much more forward depth.
- 500k could very much be the difference between Talbot, Greiss and Khudobin. No way SJ is retaining any sort of cap unless its on a player like Burns.



So,

Labanc had 33 points in this previous season, 56 the year prior, and 40 the year prior to that. Being conservative, and looking at comparables (mainly Johnsson), I think 3x3 is fair, could maybe go to 3.4 x 3, if its life or death. I personally don't think he is a 4-5M guy, but that is coming from a Canadian, who watches very little Sharks hockey.

Meier can be with Couture, thats fine. Was just using daily faceoff to get a rough outline of the team.

Gregor was listed as the 1C with injuries to Hertl/Couture, so I just stuck him at 3C, Jumbo could be there, but he would need some help.

Noesen was listed as 3RW, not sure what other injuries there were to move him up/down the lineup.

Melker Karlsson can get 700K. He is a bottom line guy for sure.

Bergmann was on the roster with all of those injuries, could likely bring up True or someone like that.

The Goal Tandem is pretty bad.

I kinda like Middleton from an outside Canadian perspective. But again that could be anyone making 700-900K

Sad that Dahlen is staying in Sweden, he could be a real stud for you

The D can be shuffled to fit needs, again, outside perspective and using Daily Faceoff for lines.

Sharks could use a 2LW. I don't see Noesen/Karlsson/Thornton filling that slot. Johnsson isn't as bad as everyone on here is making him out to be. He had a bad injury, but had a decent season up until that point. If he played a full 82, he was at 40 points.

I agree with the forward depth part... The bottom 6 is atrocious. But hey, if you are in the bottom 10, you get a nice draft pick.

500k could be a difference. Take 2M (Dell + Melker lower salary) and add it to the 3M of current space and sign Khudobin/Greiss at 4M x 4 years, and the Sorenson retention still fits.


Edit: Changed the team to address your concerns. Is this any better?
Sep. 11, 2020 at 11:16 p.m.
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Edit: Changed the team to address your concerns. Is this any better?


Yes it is much better, but Perry and Grant both are likely to sign for way more than that and Labanc is a bit underpaid too. But other than that it's solid.
Sep. 12, 2020 at 12:47 a.m.
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Yes it is much better, but Perry and Grant both are likely to sign for way more than that and Labanc is a bit underpaid too. But other than that it's solid.


That's fair. I could see Labanc getting a Johnsson contract. Think 3x3 is fair ish, given he's done team friendly before and he might want to see the succeed, so he'll take a slight pay cut.

I think Perry is still getting buyout money, and given the older talent this team has, he could help give Jumbo one last chance at a cup, and take a pay cut.

Not sure if Grant is worth 1+. First I've heard of him before and he's somewhat of a late bloomer. Not sure if players can get greedy in a flat cap.
Sep. 12, 2020 at 1:28 a.m.
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That's fair. I could see Labanc getting a Johnsson contract. Think 3x3 is fair ish, given he's done team friendly before and he might want to see the succeed, so he'll take a slight pay cut.

I think Perry is still getting buyout money, and given the older talent this team has, he could help give Jumbo one last chance at a cup, and take a pay cut.

Not sure if Grant is worth 1+. First I've heard of him before and he's somewhat of a late bloomer. Not sure if players can get greedy in a flat cap.


Yeah I agree about Labanc. He should go for anywhere between 3-3.75 million in my opinion. You're in the right ballpark, it's just a little low.

And yeah Perry shouldn't get a ton, but evolving hockey has him signing at about 1.5M which I think is more likely. He's not the kind of guy to take a paycut to help the team because he's selfless in my opinion lol.

Grant is totally a late bloomer with more points to his name than his underlying stats would suggest. I also still think he signs for more but not a significant amount more. But honestly I'd rather play Kellman at 4C because he did really well with Noesen last year on the 4th line (Not sure what happened to him here tho)
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