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(MTL/CAR) - 2020 5th round pick for Edmundson

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Sep 12 at 4:22
#1
Trade confirmed: Carolina Hurricanes - Montreal Canadiens
Trade Details
Carolina Hurricanes Acquire:
Carolina Hurricanes
2020 5th round pick (MTL - #140)
Sep 12 at 4:23
#2
Dom6Yotes
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Don Waddell got more for a free agent then Rutherford got for Bjugstad and retained at 2M lmao
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Sep 12 at 4:24
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Just Keep Swimming
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So you paid the same amount that Philly paid for KEVEN HAYES to get an at best 3rd pairing Dman, who I assume you are now going to overpay.
And what does this mean for Mete? Be very, very afraid MTL fans.



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Sep 12 at 4:24
#4
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Edited Sep 12 at 4:29
Edmundson is a solid defenseman. He fits what Montreal likes with his size
Sep 12 at 4:24
#5
bhavikp27
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A 5th for Joel Edmundson's signing rights tears of joy great deal for CAR.
Sep 12 at 4:24
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Wqrrior
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We all knew Carolina wasn't bringing him back - so it's a very intelligent move to get whatever they can for him. This makes the MTL blue line a bit of a questionmark next year. Lots of bodies for 6 spots.
Sep 12 at 4:24
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Is that a conditional 5th round pick or did Waddell just turn nothing into something?
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Sep 12 at 4:25
#8
BaRzAl OfFeRsHeEt
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Sep 12 at 4:25
#9
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Why the **** did MB feel the need to get his signing rights?
Sep 12 at 4:26
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Wqrrior
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Quoting: Random2152
So you paid the same amount that Philly paid for KEVEN HAYES to get an at best 3rd pairing Dman, who I assume you are now going to overpay.
And what of Mete? Be very, very afraid MTL fans.



Meh. This does make it seem like he has a high ask.

Though to be fair, Hayes played to his money this year. Still too long a contract, but it softened the blow considerably.

I agree overall - what the heck is their plan for this blue line??? I think Mete is on the outs.
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Sep 12 at 4:26
#11
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Edmundson is utter garbage and sub-replacement level. Terrible use of assets.
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Sep 12 at 4:27
#12
Olof for Vezina
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I never get why teams trade for UFA rights. This gives them more leverage in negotiating and drives up the price due to the risk of them not signing and losing the pick.
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Sep 12 at 4:28
#13
Dom6Yotes
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Quoting: willdog37
Smart move by Bergevin. Edmundson would complete that top 4 nicely


Edmundson is no where near a top 4 defenseman so play him in the top 4 at your own risk
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Sep 12 at 4:29
#14
Habs/Pens fan
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I never get why teams trade for UFA rights. This gives them more leverage in negotiating and drives up the price due to the risk of them not signing and losing the pick.


Montreal had like 14 picks at one point.
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Sep 12 at 4:32
#15
KIVI IS THE GOAT
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Any time you're getting something from a guy you've already decided to let go you become an instant winner.
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Sep 12 at 4:32
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Olof for Vezina
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
Montreal had like 14 picks at one point.


That's besides the point. You will lose leverage in the signing. Look at Kevin Hayes last year who also got a 5th. He signed a 7-year contract worth $7.142M! MTL doesn't have the edge In leverage.
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Sep 12 at 4:34
#17
AwesomeMatthews
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Karl Alzner 2.0?
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Sep 12 at 4:37
#18
bhavikp27
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Karl Alzner 2.0?


First thought I had
Sep 12 at 4:38
#19
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People need to chill with those "Awful asset management" comments ... The team's got a plethora of picks, who cares about a fifth?
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Sep 12 at 4:38
#20
Bias Habs Fan
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Karl Alzner 2.0?

Probably not we I think MB might flip him during the draft
Sep 12 at 4:38
#21
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Gives Habs another defenseman for the PK, can't have Weber + Petry wasting too many minutes shorthanded (not to mention Edmundson has better SH numbers than any of the Habs D last season over 50 min TOI, also better GA/60 than Slavin and Pesce believe it or not)
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Sep 12 at 4:45
#22
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Solid 4/5 guy that can kill penalties, play the body, and contribute to the offense once in a while. I like the pickup for Montreal. Let's see what the contract looks like
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Sep 12 at 4:48
#23
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Quoting: Random2152
So you paid the same amount that Philly paid for KEVEN HAYES to get an at best 3rd pairing Dman, who I assume you are now going to overpay.
And what does this mean for Mete? Be very, very afraid MTL fans.





Don't think it's fair to compare the Hayes trade to this trade. At the end of the day, Montreal paid a 5th round pick for a 4/5 guy, I'll take that anyday of the week.
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Sep 12 at 4:49
#24
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Quoting: BlueSeeker
Is that a conditional 5th round pick or did Waddell just turn nothing into something?


Per the new CBA, you aren't allowed to add conditions that depend on if you resign a guy or not.
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Sep 12 at 4:50
#25
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Quoting: jtrev
Gives Habs another defenseman for the PK, can't have Weber + Petry wasting too many minutes shorthanded (not to mention Edmundson has better SH numbers than any of the Habs D last season over 50 min TOI, also better GA/60 than Slavin and Pesce believe it or not)


Well it isn't weird that his GA/60 minutes is better than Slavin and Pesce. They played more minutes (like +3 min ES and .5 minutes SH) and vs better competition. Edmundson got 3rd pairing minutes at ES with way worse underlaying stats than any other defenseman on the Canes. Sure, he can play valuable minutes at PK. But he's not going to improve their defense overall and because of this trade, Edmundson got the leverage during the negotiations
 
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