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Team: 2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 27, 2016
Published: Sep. 27, 2016
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Kyproes suggested no chance WPG accepts.

Now lets all start getting real on these offers. Myself included.

Not taking these guys as using insider knowledge but goes to show you...
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24$73,000,000$60,112,833$512,000$4,915,000$12,887,167
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
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$686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
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G
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G
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LD
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
RD
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$600,000$600,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,250,000$5,250,000
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M-NTC
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Sep. 27, 2016 at 2:08 p.m.
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Kyproes suggested no chance WPG accepts.

Now lets all start getting real on these offers. Myself included.

Not taking these guys as using insider knowledge but goes to show you..
Sep. 27, 2016 at 2:12 p.m.
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I really respect an insider's opinion my only concern with Winnipeg is:

If they want a better defenseman than Gardiner it means its going to have to be a Hampus Lindholm, Morgan Rielly or TJ Brodie type calibre.

I can't see a team trading away a player that is at best just as good Trouba, they're not going to make a lateral trade for the heck of it.

So how good do they want that they can realistically get?

I could see Detroit offering up Dekeyser maybe, and maybe that's the echelon of defenseman they're looking for but besides him who?
Sep. 27, 2016 at 2:20 p.m.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 2:22 p.m.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 2:55 p.m.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 3:01 p.m.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.


No one ever said this was offered lol. Kypreos said WPG would reject. Also, Nylander>>>>>Fowler.

I asked you to compare the situations. One singed a $9m deal with a NTC approaching while the other is an unsigned RFA not totally established D. Not close.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 3:42 p.m.
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Get real Trouba wont sign for $5 million per year in Toronto try more like $6 million per it's been reportedly that he will only sign for that low in Detroit his hometown.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 5:22 p.m.
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Trouba isn't worth much more than Gardiner, never mind adding Nylander. Trouba is the third RD on a non playoff team. How good is he really?
Sep. 27, 2016 at 5:23 p.m.
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Way too much for Trouba IMO, Gardiner plus a LW prospect like Leipsic or A. Johnson (or both) should be good enough.
Sep. 27, 2016 at 5:28 p.m.
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I'd accept this in a heartbeat if I was Chevy
Sep. 27, 2016 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs1967again
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.


No one ever said this was offered lol. Kypreos said WPG would reject. Also, Nylander>>>>>Fowler.

I asked you to compare the situations. One singed a $9m deal with a NTC approaching while the other is an unsigned RFA not totally established D. Not close.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.


No one ever said this was offered lol. Kypreos said WPG would reject. Also, Nylander>>>>>Fowler.

I asked you to compare the situations. One singed a $9m deal with a NTC approaching while the other is an unsigned RFA not totally established D. Not close.
OK so you're trying to point out the factor the forced MB to accept only Weber? With all due respect bro, wpg isn't an elite team that can just let Trouba sit till he stops acting like a little *****. Wpg needs help now to guarantee playoffs. 90% chance he loses the deal, not drastically but he will not get equal value immediately. If there's any picks going back to wpg, they might be fruitful later on.
Sep. 28, 2016 at 8:58 a.m.
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Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.


No one ever said this was offered lol. Kypreos said WPG would reject. Also, Nylander>>>>>Fowler.

I asked you to compare the situations. One singed a $9m deal with a NTC approaching while the other is an unsigned RFA not totally established D. Not close.
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Quoting: The_Architect
Pffffffff kypreos? Please. He forgot to mention that Winnipeg is not gonna win this trade. Like I said before, MTL lost the PK trade. Winnipeg is gonna cave in sooner or later.


Please compare those two situations.
PK: Norris trophy winner. Trouba 75 points in 210 games. What kinda of leverage does wpg have? Troubas' potential? Perhaps. The package above is a very good package. I don't see too many other teams giving such packages. But Chevy is being stubborn, he should take Gardiner and Nylander and flip them for something else that he could use if he thinks Trouba is worth more. Anaheim might give up Fowler just for Nylander.


No one ever said this was offered lol. Kypreos said WPG would reject. Also, Nylander>>>>>Fowler.

I asked you to compare the situations. One singed a $9m deal with a NTC approaching while the other is an unsigned RFA not totally established D. Not close.
OK so you're trying to point out the factor the forced MB to accept only Weber? With all due respect bro, wpg isn't an elite team that can just let Trouba sit till he stops acting like a little *****. Wpg needs help now to guarantee playoffs. 90% chance he loses the deal, not drastically but he will not get equal value immediately. If there's any picks going back to wpg, they might be fruitful later on.


"ONLY" Weber? I know some people view him in steep decline but MTL thinks he is a Norris D man still. That's why they did it.

If WPG isn't elite, why do they need help to guarantee playoffs. Shouldn't they concentrate on their rebuild? Name me one case where this has worked out. Luongo sat around for 2 years, Drouin returned, Hamonic rescinded....Spezza trade, maybe?

If I am WPG I play hard ball. I'd accept Gardiner and Nylander. However, not sure how many high end W prospects they need. I doubt Nylander can ever succeed at C.
 
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