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Created by: Jay27
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 13, 2020
Published: Sep. 13, 2020
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So this is what I see shaping up IF Bergy can get a reasonable deal done with Edmundson.

So I'm looking for input on what sniper the masses think is obtainable for this package. What is missing in this lineup is a right handed shooter to score from the wing, don't care if he's one dimensional as long as that one dimension is putting the puck in the net.

Interested to see the comments... even from the Hab haters.
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    Right handed sniper to play #1PP and 2nd line with Suzy and Armia. Any team.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 9:25 a.m.
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    Maybe that gets you Rakell from the Ducks? Idk, Anaheim fans would know his value better then I.

    Don't really think there's a pure sniper out there that that package would get you, not giving enough value for a pure goal scorer with those pieces.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 9:32 a.m.
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    Will not happen in my opinion. Laine and Mantha are ideal targets. Won't get them for Domi, Mete and 1st.
    Could sign Hoffman or Dadonov but those will be expensive contracts for aging players and will seriously hurt our ability to sign, Danault, Gallagher, Petry and maybe Tatar, plus the RFAs (Kk, armia).

    I like Domi for Anderson (CBJ) straight up or with some sort of compensation pick included. Domi has potential and will likely breakout on the right team but he won't be worth it for MTL to keep him. He also doesn't have as much value as we think right now. Also prefer to keep Mete and the 1st pick and wait for one of those RD defenceman to push Mete out. I think we have a shot next year to make a deep run in the playoffs with current roster. Drouin, KK, Suzuki all get better. Edmunson and Romanov solidify 3LD. Mete plays 3RD with 3 prospects pushing him. That's incredible depth. We need a second line RW who can replace domi production. A legit sniper would be nice but is far to expensive and will cost much more than domi Mete and a 1st. Anderson has size, speed and can score 20 to 30 goals. Great addition, conservative and is value for Domi IMO. I'm also not a big Domi fan. Too inconsistent. Always left wanting more.
    Sep. 13, 2020 at 9:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Maybe that gets you Rakell from the Ducks? Idk, Anaheim fans would know his value better then I.

    Don't really think there's a pure sniper out there that that package would get you, not giving enough value for a pure goal scorer with those pieces.


    Rakell is a cool suggestion, especially since his production has dropped off the last couple of years. He's a shooter, shoots right, can play LW and has a reasonable cap hit, I like it.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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    It would really be the maximum amount I'd give to Edmundson. I would give him Scandella's money (3.25)

    I get the idea to get a reliable 4th center cause MTL will have probably a youngster there in Evans or maybe Poehling. Paquette for a 5th is an idea pushed by @GMs for a while (I would rather use a 5th for him than for 3 weeks of Edmundson's signing rights). Pretty sure Bergevin will get a 4th liner that can take faceoffs.

    A Domi trade for a LW makes sense. If not he'll be our LW at around 6m.

    Juulsen will get less. Fleury in AHL if Mete is resigned (around 1.7m IMO). I see MTL resign him (Juulsen 4th RD, Mete 4th LD), but I'd rather trade him for someone with same contract situation, same age & same value (Greenway in MIN)
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: HabsRealGM
    Will not happen in my opinion. Laine and Mantha are ideal targets. Won't get them for Domi, Mete and 1st.
    Could sign Hoffman or Dadonov but those will be expensive contracts for aging players and will seriously hurt our ability to sign, Danault, Gallagher, Petry and maybe Tatar, plus the RFAs (Kk, armia).

    I like Domi for Anderson (CBJ) straight up or with some sort of compensation pick included. Domi has potential and will likely breakout on the right team but he won't be worth it for MTL to keep him. He also doesn't have as much value as we think right now. Also prefer to keep Mete and the 1st pick and wait for one of those RD defenceman to push Mete out. I think we have a shot next year to make a deep run in the playoffs with current roster. Drouin, KK, Suzuki all get better. Edmunson and Romanov solidify 3LD. Mete plays 3RD with 3 prospects pushing him. That's incredible depth. We need a second line RW who can replace domi production. A legit sniper would be nice but is far to expensive and will cost much more than domi Mete and a 1st. Anderson has size, speed and can score 20 to 30 goals. Great addition, conservative and is value for Domi IMO. I'm also not a big Domi fan. Too inconsistent. Always left wanting more.


    I'm not opposed to the idea of injecting Anderson into the lineup, he's not a sniper but in an ideal situation he's a bruiser who can put up 20 goals. My problem with Domi for Anderson is that I don't think the Jackets would be willing to fork over the kind of cash Domi would require especially if there still aren't fans in the stands come season opener.
    Sep. 13, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: pinslack
    It would really be the maximum amount I'd give to Edmundson. I would give him Scandella's money (3.25)

    I get the idea to get a reliable 4th center cause MTL will have probably a youngster there in Evans or maybe Poehling. Paquette for a 5th is an idea pushed by @GMs for a while (I would rather use a 5th for him than for 3 weeks of Edmundson's signing rights). Pretty sure Bergevin will get a 4th liner that can take faceoffs.

    A Domi trade for a LW makes sense. If not he'll be our LW at around 6m.

    Juulsen will get less. Fleury in AHL if Mete is resigned (around 1.7m IMO). I see MTL resign him (Juulsen 4th RD, Mete 4th LD), but I'd rather trade him for someone with same contract situation, same age & same value (Greenway in MIN)


    Would be nice if Edmundson signed for less, but he holds all the cards so I doubt it, 3.75 feels right.

    4th line center wise, I'm a huge supporter of bringing Thompson back. Wins faceoffs, kills penalties and the guys love him, plus he grows a glorious beard that'll look great when MTL makes the conference finals next season (:

    I like Domi but the writing is on the wall...

    Juulsen could get less although I wouldn't fret if he gets 1.25m, wouldn't hurt to have Fleury get a little more seasoning in the AHL but Mete for Greenway? I think Minny gawks at that, not that I don't think Mete has value, I just think Greenway has more.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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    If a sniper is a player scoring 25+ goals a year, you wont find one for that package.

    Wait for Caufield.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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    Guys I see as being a great fit but not costing huge pieces to acquire are.

    Killorn
    Puljujarvi
    Anderson
    Poulin
    Legare
    Rackell
    Or similar players/prospects
    Sep. 13, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    If a sniper is a player scoring 25+ goals a year, you wont find one for that package.

    Wait for Caufield.


    Caufield is still a couple years away. Need scoring now. Normally I'm the one preaching patience but Weber and Price aren't getting any younger and they deserve to be on a competitive team. Even if it cost more than the package I proposed, scoring help is a must next season.
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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    Caufield is still a couple years away. Need scoring now. Normally I'm the one preaching patience but Weber and Price aren't getting any younger and they deserve to be on a competitive team. Even if it cost more than the package I proposed, scoring help is a must next season.


    Every team want elite scoring and usually aren't trading it away once they have it.

    And then the few teams with scorers available (CLB-Anderson, NJD-Palmieri, WPG-Ehlers) might not want Domi as a return or value him too low. Anyway those players are not a significative upgrade on Domi.

    Wait and develop.
    Sep. 13, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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    Rakell. Rakell + a 3rd could be your trade right there
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    Sep. 13, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: Arlotti47
    Rakell. Rakell + a 3rd could be your trade right there


    So what are you proposing? Rakell and a 3rd for Domi, Mete and the 16th OA? If I was Bergy I'd pull the trigger on that.

    You know what I'm going to post a ACGM right now and see how much hate it gets lol.
    Oct. 6, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsRealGM
    Will not happen in my opinion. Laine and Mantha are ideal targets. Won't get them for Domi, Mete and 1st.
    Could sign Hoffman or Dadonov but those will be expensive contracts for aging players and will seriously hurt our ability to sign, Danault, Gallagher, Petry and maybe Tatar, plus the RFAs (Kk, armia).

    I like Domi for Anderson (CBJ) straight up or with some sort of compensation pick included. Domi has potential and will likely breakout on the right team but he won't be worth it for MTL to keep him. He also doesn't have as much value as we think right now. Also prefer to keep Mete and the 1st pick and wait for one of those RD defenceman to push Mete out. I think we have a shot next year to make a deep run in the playoffs with current roster. Drouin, KK, Suzuki all get better. Edmunson and Romanov solidify 3LD. Mete plays 3RD with 3 prospects pushing him. That's incredible depth. We need a second line RW who can replace domi production. A legit sniper would be nice but is far to expensive and will cost much more than domi Mete and a 1st. Anderson has size, speed and can score 20 to 30 goals. Great addition, conservative and is value for Domi IMO. I'm also not a big Domi fan. Too inconsistent. Always left wanting more.


    I'm just saying... smile
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    Oct. 7, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsRealGM
    I'm just saying... smile


    Good call
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