Lol offer sheets imagine thinking those will happen

Kings aren't giving up next years 1st for a player we really don't need. I love Sergachev, but if he can't be had for any of Walker, Kupari, Grundstrom, Durzi, Madden, Spence, and Iafallo then I don't want him. Kings are set for their top 4 LDs in Bjonrfot and Anderson. We still need 2-3 top 6 wings and a 2RD before our rebuild is complete. That's assuming Turcotte, Kaliyev, and JAD work out.

I can't really see a scenario where they lose both Cirelli/Sergachev.

They may have to! But we will see what happens moving forward.

That's fair! In my mind LA either needs to try to improve right now to maximize Doughty/Kopitar or they should go full rebuild. Offer sheeting for Serg gives them a really good dcorp. Serg is young and would help them now and for a long time. The focus would be so that they try to get back in the win column now. And if not, at least they get Serg long term.

Honestly, I think Tampa is going to get offer sheeted HARD. Unless they trade and sign guys before free agency opens up.

We have yet seen a team in this much of a cap hell, with this many amazing young guys to sign. If I were a gm of another team I would go for it.

I should also point out, that regardless of the what happens, Tampa will be super competitive next year.

I don't think people have physically tried to Armchair GM the lightning themselves or else they wouldn't be grilling your last 2 posts. I've tried and I can't find a realistic solution to their problem. They have too many NMC/NTC. Killorn is the one, but even then thats not enough for even one of Cirelli or Sergachev. That just makes it so you can sign Cernak and have some change left over. The Lightning are in a real bad way cap wise (luckily for them, they might win the Cup this year), and don't expect any of their players to just waive the NTC. And don't expect teams to just help Tampa out here. Teams around the league are ready to hold them hostage for Cirelli and Sergachev.

I don't think the 2 options you put on here tonight are likely solutions, but kudos for giving it a go, and trying your best to get fair value. I tried the other night, and got no where.

The only difference is, signing Sergachev isn’t worth the Kings potentially throwing away Owen Power, Dylan Guenther, Cole Sillinger, etc etc. Sergachev isn’t going to be a difference maker that makes that 1st lower than it’s likely going to be.

Ya totally! Thanks

I have concluded that regardless of the scenario, their team looks really good for next year (their D can be weak under certain circumstances), but they get a lot of futures out of it all! So even though they are in a tricky cap situation and will need to make some VERY hard decisions, they will be just fine in the short and long term!

I disagree. If you are lucky enough to get a pick ranging from 4th to 10th overall, that turns into Sergachev, you are happy! Young proven commodity vs super high end unknown potential.

I think Ideally, you get rid of Killorn, and accept that you may have to accept next to nothing just to create cap. Then you hope you can trade one more of those NTC and use the Seattle Expansion as leverage, saying that player will be left exposed and have to go to an expansion team so at least let us trade him to a contender. Thats their only hope at possibly keeping both Cirelli and Sergachev. Even then its not super likely to have enough for Cernak as well.

If the NTC guys waive, Tampa gets smaller return but keeps their young studs.
If the NTC guys don't waive, Tampa trades their young studs for HIGH end picks and prospects.

In both scenarios Tampa looks good short and long term.

They have been rebuilding for almost 3 years now. The rebuild is almost over. If somehow guys like Turcotte, Kaliyev, Bjornfot, and Byfield/Stutzle don't pan out it will be much longer.

Every year everyone thinks teams will get "offer sheeted hard" never happens. In the last 10 years a total of 2 offer sheets have been signed, both were matched.

Offer sheets are horrible for future relations. Lets say you offer sheet a player, you will likely not be making a trade with that team for quite a few years due to bad blood. Furthermore the player has to actually sign the offer sheet, for example last year Point publicly announced he was going to ignore any offer sheet he received.

Doesn't mean there will be a slew of OS's but it only takes one, if MB did it last year why wouldn't he do it this year? Aho last year so why not Cirelli or Barzal this year? He obviously isn't happy with his center corp.

That is so far from true now, Montreal is very happy with their center core after this playoffs

Playoffs are a small sample of games 10 to be exact for Montreal...it's not a full season plus there was the excitement of playing hockey again and being in the playoffs when the 8 teams that made it in wouldn't have normally been there. Montreal was just an example but I think MB learned a lesson last year and won't make the same mistake of going low. Tampa is ripe for the taking bc if the players with NMC or NTC don't agree to leave they only have Point that they can trade that makes good money. The Rangers and Jets need a 2C and with the way 2020 has gone nothing would surprise me.