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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 14, 2020
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:10 a.m.
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Not a chance EDM accepts
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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no they would not.......... why would they?
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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Don't think either team does, Leafs sure don't.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: ASoftDumpInTheCorner
Not a chance EDM accepts


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Don't think either team does, Leafs sure don't.


Quoting: python3504
no they would not.......... why would they?


yeah i did this as a joke
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:16 a.m.
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Value wise I think its even but the cap hit is very lopsided
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.
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Leafs have no need to pull off this trade as McDavid is going to walk to Leafs for free as soon as he becomes a UFA.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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no lol
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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Leafs have no need to pull off this trade as McDavid is going to walk to Leafs for free as soon as he becomes a UFA.


right, because toronto has had a ton of success
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:24 a.m.
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right, because toronto has had a ton of success


wrong, because McDavid grew up idolizing Leafs and the NHL needs him now with Covid to be playing in a major TV market and Toronto is the media capital of Canada and of the entire NHL.....If the NHL does not get fans back watching hockey it is in big trouble and even the Oilers owner is going to be willing to trade McDavid to protect his investment in Edmonton.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:24 a.m.
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right, because toronto has had a ton of success


They'll be looking for someone to replace Matthews, who will have left the Leafs as a UFA 2 years prior. tears of joy
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.
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yeah i did this as a joke


some jokes arent worth telling.....
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:27 a.m.
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Quoting: TML_Tika
wrong, because McDavid grew up idolizing Leafs and the NHL needs him now with Covid to be playing in a major TV market and Toronto is the media capital of Canada and of the entire NHL.....If the NHL does not get fans back watching hockey it is in big trouble and even the Oilers owner is going to be willing to trade McDavid to protect his investment in Edmonton.


Crosby grew up a Canadiens fan, yet will most likely play his entire career in a small market town in western Pennsylvania. Same with Lemieux. Gretzky grew up near Toronto and never once put on a Leafs sweater. Only deluded Leafs fans carry on with that narrative.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: TML_Tika
wrong, because McDavid grew up idolizing Leafs and the NHL needs him now with Covid to be playing in a major TV market and Toronto is the media capital of Canada and of the entire NHL.....If the NHL does not get fans back watching hockey it is in big trouble and even the Oilers owner is going to be willing to trade McDavid to protect his investment in Edmonton.


COVID will be loooooong over when McDavid becomes a UFA in 2026.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:52 a.m.
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Value wise I think its even but the cap hit is very lopsided


Your Kidding right! McDavid is the best player in the world by miles. He alone is worth Matthews and Marner. Draisaitl is worth Tavares, so now Edmonton has to give up RNH for free! LMAO no way add Reilly and Nylander then maybe it is closer.
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 9:58 a.m.
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Your Kidding right! McDavid is the best player in the world by miles. He alone is worth Matthews and Marner. Draisaitl is worth Tavares, so now Edmonton has to give up RNH for free! LMAO no way add Reilly and Nylander then maybe it is closer.


Never said the deal would happen

You are either anti Leaf or have no idea about player value.

Mcdavid I agree is better than Matthews But not worth Matthews and Marner. The difference between the 2 could be sorted with draft picks. I would say the same thing about Tavares vs Draisaitl. with Draisaitl being the better player. The difference between Marner and Hopkins is what I think balances the value in this trade. KEEP in mind I am not taking into consideration their CAP hits
Sep. 14, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Never said the deal would happen

You are either anti Leaf or have no idea about player value.

Mcdavid I agree is better than Matthews But not worth Matthews and Marner. The difference between the 2 could be sorted with draft picks. I would say the same thing about Tavares vs Draisaitl. with Draisaitl being the better player. The difference between Marner and Hopkins is what I think balances the value in this trade. KEEP in mind I am not taking into consideration their CAP hits


LMAO!!! The difference in Matthews and McDavid is NOT just draft picks. McDavid is a generational talent, Matthews is at best a Franchise player. McDavid had 372 points in his first 4 seasons compared to Matthews 285 a difference of almost 100 points. Matthews does edge McDavid in goals over those first 4 seasons (Matthews 158 McDavid 128) however look at the PPG 1.01 Matthews and 1.28 McDavid. I would say MCDavid is far and away worth more than Matthews + Picks so unless you throw in 2 or 3 1sts which is worth more than Marner you have to add Marner to the deal for just McDavid. Draisaitl is also a Franchise player and has the same value as Matthews not Tavares.

Draisaitl is on the same level as Matthews. You could argue Draisaitl for Matthews 1 for 1, RNH for Marner 1 for 1 but that still leaves you with Tavares for McDavid which means you have to add more than just picks. Probably Reilly and Nylander like I said. That is without taking into account contracts as well.

You cannot set a value of a player without also taking into account their cap hit. That simply just isn't how it works, cap hit is a major part of player evaluation.

BTW, I am a Habs fan, second favorite team is the Avs then the Leafs. I was actually hoping the Leafs made the playoffs this year and made a deep run cause my father was a Leafs fan and he just passed 2 years ago. I don't hate the Leafs, Matthews, Marner or Tavares. I just have a more objective point of view, which you clearly don't like.
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
LMAO!!! The difference in Matthews and McDavid is NOT just draft picks. McDavid is a generational talent, Matthews is at best a Franchise player. McDavid had 372 points in his first 4 seasons compared to Matthews 285 a difference of almost 100 points. Matthews does edge McDavid in goals over those first 4 seasons (Matthews 158 McDavid 128) however look at the PPG 1.01 Matthews and 1.28 McDavid. I would say MCDavid is far and away worth more than Matthews + Picks so unless you throw in 2 or 3 1sts which is worth more than Marner you have to add Marner to the deal for just McDavid. Draisaitl is also a Franchise player and has the same value as Matthews not Tavares.

Draisaitl is on the same level as Matthews. You could argue Draisaitl for Matthews 1 for 1, RNH for Marner 1 for 1 but that still leaves you with Tavares for McDavid which means you have to add more than just picks. Probably Reilly and Nylander like I said. That is without taking into account contracts as well.

You cannot set a value of a player without also taking into account their cap hit. That simply just isn't how it works, cap hit is a major part of player evaluation.

BTW, I am a Habs fan, second favorite team is the Avs then the Leafs. I was actually hoping the Leafs made the playoffs this year and made a deep run cause my father was a Leafs fan and he just passed 2 years ago. I don't hate the Leafs, Matthews, Marner or Tavares. I just have a more objective point of view, which you clearly don't like.



My original post said Value wise was good but the cap makes it lopsided. So I am only talking about player vs player in a hockey sense

McDavid is a generational player agreed
Matthews can be argued is also a generational player but Lets stick to franchise player
Tavares and Draisaitl would also fall into the franchise player

RNH (0.73 PPG)is not equal to Marner(0.97PPG) I would say the difference in them is grater than McDavid and Matthews

so in the end EDM gets 3 of the best players in the NHL and TOR gets only 2 back with RNH who i would not even consider a superstar
Sep. 14, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.
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My original post said Value wise was good but the cap makes it lopsided. So I am only talking about player vs player in a hockey sense

McDavid is a generational player agreed
Matthews can be argued is also a generational player but Lets stick to franchise player
Tavares and Draisaitl would also fall into the franchise player

RNH (0.73 PPG)is not equal to Marner(0.97PPG) I would say the difference in them is grater than McDavid and Matthews

so in the end EDM gets 3 of the best players in the NHL and TOR gets only 2 back with RNH who i would not even consider a superstar


No Tavares is an elite tallent not a Franchise player! BTW his PPG is 0.94 which is less than Marner's. Matthews is nowhere near a generational talent! Franchise player yes.
Sep. 14, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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No Tavares is an elite tallent not a Franchise player! BTW his PPG is 0.94 which is less than Marner's. Matthews is nowhere near a generational talent! Franchise player yes.


And Maner will just get better but Goals bring a premium and Matthews and Tavares bring both. and the end of the day just the fact that you can make a case for it means the value is there

Tavares is a franchise player 47 Goals last year this year had the broken hand and that really effects your shot and would have been on pace for mid 30's in 82 games
Sep. 14, 2020 at 1:50 p.m.
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And Maner will just get better but Goals bring a premium and Matthews and Tavares bring both. and the end of the day just the fact that you can make a case for it means the value is there

Tavares is a franchise player 47 Goals last year this year had the broken hand and that really effects your shot and would have been on pace for mid 30's in 82 games


1. Generational talents are players who can only be replaced by 1 or 2 other guys in the league. They are the type of players that only come around once or twice every 20 years.

McDavid - can only be replaced by Crosby and MAYBE McKinnon.

2. Franchise players are the cornerstones of an organization. They are the types of players that if lost the organization has to rebuild.

Matthews - can be replaced by Aho, Draisaitl, Scheifele, Barzal, McKinnon (if you don't consider him a generational talent), Kopitar, Petterson, Horvat, Barkov, Eichel, Monahan and Malkin.

3. Elite talent, players that are not easily replaced but not the cornerstone of an organization.

Tavares - can be replaced by Backlund, Suzuki, Tierney, Bergeron, Larkin, Huberdeau, Point, Stamkos, Dubois, Hughes, Zibanejad, Couturier, Backstrom, Twoes, Landeskog, Seguin, Johansen, Schenn, Getzlaf, Stepan, Nugent-Hopkins, Stastny and Karlsson
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Sep. 14, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.
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wrong, because McDavid grew up idolizing Leafs and the NHL needs him now with Covid to be playing in a major TV market and Toronto is the media capital of Canada and of the entire NHL.....If the NHL does not get fans back watching hockey it is in big trouble and even the Oilers owner is going to be willing to trade McDavid to protect his investment in Edmonton.


lmao i cant tell if this guy is trolling
Sep. 14, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
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And Maner will just get better but Goals bring a premium and Matthews and Tavares bring both. and the end of the day just the fact that you can make a case for it means the value is there

Tavares is a franchise player 47 Goals last year this year had the broken hand and that really effects your shot and would have been on pace for mid 30's in 82 games


Draisaitl scored 50 last year, is 5 years younger, and makes 3.5M less
McDavid>>>Matthews no question
Between Marner and RNH and 6M more in cap space...
Sep. 15, 2020 at 12:12 a.m.
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COVID will be loooooong over when McDavid becomes a UFA in 2026.


My guess is that McDavid is going to just want out of Edmonton shortly as he is sick of the constant rebuild and excuses and wants to play some meaningful playoff games in the future.
Sep. 15, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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My guess is that McDavid is going to just want out of Edmonton shortly as he is sick of the constant rebuild and excuses and wants to play some meaningful playoff games in the future.


He won't be coming to Toronto then, lol.

And your original point was that the "Leafs have no need to pull off this trade as McDavid is going to walk to Leafs for free as soon as he becomes a UFA." Are you walking that back now?
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