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Merkley and Frost join the Burns Voracek Swap

Created by: CheechYou
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2020
Published: Sep. 16, 2020
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Very interesting and realistic deal if you ask me...
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,700,000
2$2,000,000
2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$800,000
2$1,900,000
2$1,000,000
4$2,750,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Benning, Matthew [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Sörensen, Marcus
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
2.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the PIT
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,951,666$0$232,500$4,548,334

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$3,700,000$3,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
C
RFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 6
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$925,000$925,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 16, 2020 at 12:29 a.m.
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nope nope nope, if we are trading Burns, we aren't going to send his eventual replacement along with him too.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 12:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Klara
nope nope nope, if we are trading Burns, we aren't going to send his eventual replacement along with him too.


Yeah I actually would very much consider a Merkley for (insert high caliber prospect here) swap, but if we're getting rid of Burns, it wouldn't be smart to also get rid of Merkley.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Klara
nope nope nope, if we are trading Burns, we aren't going to send his eventual replacement along with him too.


Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
Yeah I actually would very much consider a Merkley for (insert high caliber prospect here) swap, but if we're getting rid of Burns, it wouldn't be smart to also get rid of Merkley.


In a vacuum, I agree, but in this scenario at least there's Benning and DeMelo. Granted, they're nowhere near elite as we're expecting with Merkley, but that's in a few years and they provide above-average solidification of the defense for the next few years at least at RD. (Also, not advocating this btw, just devil's advocating)
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 12:43 a.m.
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I dunno about that. Provided they protect Burns in the ED, they're losing either Sanheim or Myers to Seattle. Think one of them had to be included in the trade to make it work from that perspective. Also with Patrick's career being a question mark due to his migraine issues, I don't see moving Frost as a realistic option for them.

How about something like this:

San Jose Sharks
Jakub Voracek
Travis Sanheim
German Rubtsov/Jay O'Brien (pick the one you like more)
2021 3rd round pick (PHI)

Philadelphia Flyers
Brent Burns
Kevin Labanc (Voracek replacement)
Mario Ferraro (Sanheim replacement that won't need to be protected)
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 12:56 a.m.
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I dunno about that. Provided they protect Burns in the ED, they're losing either Sanheim or Myers to Seattle. Think one of them had to be included in the trade to make it work from that perspective. Also with Patrick's career being a question mark due to his migraine issues, I don't see moving Frost as a realistic option for them.

How about something like this:

San Jose Sharks
Jakub Voracek
Travis Sanheim
German Rubtsov/Jay O'Brien (pick the one you like more)
2021 3rd round pick (PHI)

Philadelphia Flyers
Brent Burns
Kevin Labanc (Voracek replacement)
Mario Ferraro (Sanheim replacement that won't need to be protected)


Honestly, that's a super interesting proposal. It's the type that you just kind of have to sit and think about for a long while... at first glance I don't think I'd consider but if the 3rd were changed to a 1st since Labanc and Ferraro are both provens at this point, and Ferraro's really underrated and cost-effective, I'd definitely think long and hard on it. It would entirely depend on DW's strategy... if he's fully demolishing the roster for youth and going for a rebuild, it makes sense. If he's still in the retool camp, he doesn't do it.

Personally, I'd give our existing roster one more shot with Patty/Jumo with two or three solid free agents reinforcing the depth along with a Danault trade and/or a Burns/Voracek swap. The draft next season will likely take a key player (and his contract) out, so I'd consider a rebuild if it warrant considering then.

What I really wanna know tho is how you got those logos there lol
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 1:00 a.m.
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both of what we give is better so no
Sep. 16, 2020 at 1:04 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
I dunno about that. Provided they protect Burns in the ED, they're losing either Sanheim or Myers to Seattle. Think one of them had to be included in the trade to make it work from that perspective. Also with Patrick's career being a question mark due to his migraine issues, I don't see moving Frost as a realistic option for them.

How about something like this:

San Jose Sharks
Jakub Voracek
Travis Sanheim
German Rubtsov/Jay O'Brien (pick the one you like more)
2021 3rd round pick (PHI)

Philadelphia Flyers
Brent Burns
Kevin Labanc (Voracek replacement)
Mario Ferraro (Sanheim replacement that won't need to be protected)


This is a really interesting one actually. I dunno. I like the proposal a good deal. The real issue here is that moving Ferraro will cost a lot. He has a lot of upside, and we really like him here. Labanc is expendable, but also not an asset we should give away for too little. The I'm not sure who I'd rather have between Myers and Sanheim. They're both good, but it would really come down to if Sanheim can pair with Erik Karlsson or not. If he can, the Sharks might go in that direction, But honestly I'd feel much more inclined to target Myers if Philly was giving up one of the because of the expansion draft. He'll be cheaper, and a better fit with Vlasic I think on the 2nd pair. Like I said though the real issue is losing Ferraro here. Also O'Brian and Rubtsov are both very underwhelming. We'd rather not have either of them and get a better pick back.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 1:08 a.m.
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Quoting: CheechYou
Honestly, that's a super interesting proposal. It's the type that you just kind of have to sit and think about for a long while... at first glance I don't think I'd consider but if the 3rd were changed to a 1st since Labanc and Ferraro are both provens at this point, and Ferraro's really underrated and cost-effective, I'd definitely think long and hard on it. It would entirely depend on DW's strategy... if he's fully demolishing the roster for youth and going for a rebuild, it makes sense. If he's still in the retool camp, he doesn't do it.

Personally, I'd give our existing roster one more shot with Patty/Jumo with two or three solid free agents reinforcing the depth along with a Danault trade and/or a Burns/Voracek swap. The draft next season will likely take a key player (and his contract) out, so I'd consider a rebuild if it warrant considering then.

What I really wanna know tho is how you got those logos there lol


Press the smilies icon from above the text bar. There's a logos option there.

As for the offer, I kinda agree with you there, but giving a 1st might be a bit much. Maybe if it was conditional, something like a 2nd that turns into first rounder if Flyers makes it to the 2nd round or ECF.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 1:26 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
I dunno about that. Provided they protect Burns in the ED, they're losing either Sanheim or Myers to Seattle. Think one of them had to be included in the trade to make it work from that perspective. Also with Patrick's career being a question mark due to his migraine issues, I don't see moving Frost as a realistic option for them.

How about something like this:

San Jose Sharks
Jakub Voracek
Travis Sanheim
German Rubtsov/Jay O'Brien (pick the one you like more)
2021 3rd round pick (PHI)

Philadelphia Flyers
Brent Burns
Kevin Labanc (Voracek replacement)
Mario Ferraro (Sanheim replacement that won't need to be protected)


This is highly bad for the flyers - they kindly decline and say enjoy Burns at 40
 
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