Don't think Blues would be very happy helping you guys take their captain

Lol. I'm seeing them want Sandin + Robertson + 15OA for Parayko so they can sign Pietrangelo.

I'm just doing the same thing to show them how unrealistic it is.

I think the best course for STL is trading Bozak and Gunnarsson and buying out Steen.

Thomas was 2 secondary assists shy of leading the team in 5v5 scoring last szn. Who are the Blues fans asking for that compares?

Robertson lead the entire OHL in scoring and was only 17. Robertson could very well be a better player than Thomas at the same age.

Thomas put up 42 points, Nylander put up 61 points at the same age.

Sandin was the most valuable defenceman in the entire world Juniors with players like Byram and Drysdale playing.

15OA is better than the 1sts you guys will have this year or next year.

Typical undervaluing of other team's prospects. If they were Blues prospects you'd be calling them untouchable.

Beyond the fact that Johnsson is worth significantly more than a mere 3rd round draft pick, the Rielly deal seems pretty fine to me especially considering his deal is up in 2 years and he will command a significant pay raise. The fact that Rielly and Parayko have paired together before (IIHF World Championship) also makes it quite appealing to St. Louis. As a Leafs fan, although it would be great to have Pietrangelo in the short-term, that deal will look worse and worse as he gets older. Finally, you need to consider Dermott for what he is, and he just may not be a top-4 guy. I'd look to Colorado. Perhaps Nylander for Graves plus might be something both teams would consider. Graves is a young controllable defender in much the same mold as Jake Muzzin, and Robert Thomas could more than handle Nylander's role as a top-6 winger. You could then potentially trade Dermott with Andersen to get a better return.

They have to hand out a raise to Robert Thomas the season after though. He'll probably get 5M and I'm pretty sure they'll want to hold onto him.

If they think they can win the cup again in the next 3-4 years they should go for it but personally I think they should let Parayko walk unless he takes a team friendly deal.

He'll want 7 or 8 years at 9M+ and some team will probably give it to him.

I see WPG for some reason.

I wouldn't be upset about people asking for untouchable prospects for untouchable roster pieces. You said Liljegren and 15oa is fair for Parayko, so how about Perunovich and 26oa for Rielly? He won the Hobey Baker over Newhook, Turcotte and Zegras.

There's not a chance that St.Louis does this trade imo.

The Leafs aren't guaranteed Pietrangelo, unlike St.Louis.

Perunovich and two 1sts and I'd probably do it.

Normally I would say that a team that is a year removed from a Stanley Cup wouldn't make such major additions, or major trades, but I would not bet against Doug Armstrong doing some drastic stuff this offseason, especially if he cannot resign Pietrangelo.

I mean he did go out and get Faulk (lol) which turned out to be a terrible trade. Maybe he doubles down?

Different topic but I'd say its pretty far from a guarantee that Petro stays. Armstrong doesn't wanna pay him and he built the whole team without him already. But I do see your point, the cap space is a valuable part of any trade. Full disclosure if the Blues got Sandin and Robertson and the 15oa for Parayko and turned around and signed Petro I'd be ecstatic. Realistically, 2 of those pieces may get it done, and maybe there would be a couple other toss-ins from either side. Still, seems like the better, forgotten move is to keep parayko and avoid handing out a $70 million contract for Petro's back 9.

Well the NTC he gave to Faulk certainly does not help things. Rielly has 2 years at a very affordable rate. Armstrong loves to deal. Hey, they aren't all winners but at least he takes a very proactive (perhaps even aggressive) approach to trying to make his team better.

Sandin and Robertson are untouchable. I'd rather move Nylander or Marner.

I’m just telling you how unrealistic it is for the Blues to want to trade him. You can shove the CP55 offers up your you know what. Have a good day.

ah the face you’ll make when dubas works his magic again and gets him

you are very very very delusional.

but I guess it is dubas. He worked his magic to make a great offensive powerhouse and still not win a playoff round so who knows.

That the reason you Never win a Play-off round.Making Points is not everything.Thomas is a Terrific defence Forward.Do not know many People who are at the Same Age and Better in their Own Zone.Blues never made that trade.

The separation from reality evident in some of these comments is alarming. Parayko is a super valuable piece.

1. Robertson could be.
2. Nylander played with much better players than Tyler Bozak and Steen/Blais.
3. Just because he won that award doesn’t mean he’s as valuable as those guys.

As for the rest, who else would the Blues want from TOR? They’re not restructuring their entire team to fit one of your “big 4” and bringing in Rielly to our position of depth (LHD) doesn’t make us better. We have Dunn/Scandella/Gunnarsson which is solid but then Perunovich and Mikkola coming up who look pretty good. Perunovich is our Robertson if you will and Mikkola looks like he has really good shutdown potential.

The Blues are handing AP away as it is with the paltry 7 x 5 year offer they put on the table - AP has stated he wants between 50-60 million total he wants to stay in St Louis but also wants 50-60 million and likely wants most of it up front

Scandella is terrible lol, claiming Nylander only had success die to his line mates is like saying Paryako is only good because he plays with much better players

dubas worked his magic and got a first for a 3rd liner who isn’t good.

Well Scandella played pretty well with Parayko this year, so...