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Why overpaid for Laine

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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2020
Published: Sep. 16, 2020
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  1. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
  2. Tatar, Tomas ($2,400,000 retained)
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2020
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2021
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19$81,500,000$68,322,976$0$3,137,500$13,177,024
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:25 a.m.
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:26 a.m.
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Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?
And CGY as no interest in Mete asthey are load up on the left side
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:27 a.m.
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


Are you talking about the LHD in Anaheim... instead of RW in CGY?
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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Is this a joke? Elias Lindholm is a stud Lindholm's best season 78 points Tomas Tatar's best season 61 points an aging winger and a bottom pairing LD doesn't get you a stud like Lindholm.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Are you talking about the LHD in Anaheim... instead of RW in CGY?


oh boy here come the kids

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Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?


ah what? Tatar playing the season of his career and now he is better then E.Lindholm? haha ok bud
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:35 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?
And CGY as no interest in Mete asthey are load up on the left side


Dude Lindholm is miles better then Tatar, That's not even debatable. I mean Tatar was my favorite Wing i'm a Tatar freak and even i know that Lindholm is better then him.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude Lindholm is miles better then Tatar, That's not even debatable. I mean Tatar was my favorite Wing i'm a Tatar freak and even i know that Lindholm is better then him.


That bad... see him play many time as I like Cgy and never stand out... I founded that he play similare game than Tatar... amazing 20ft for the net... and Lindholm was playing with better offensive guy like Mony & Johnny Hockey
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:46 a.m.
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:49 a.m.
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Lmao Lindholm will cost you more than Laine would. Gtgo hes not available
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:50 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?


Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.

Quoting: DomCholette
That bad... see him play many time as I like Cgy and never stand out... I founded that he play similare game than Tatar... amazing 20ft for the net... and Lindholm was playing with better offensive guy like Mony & Johnny Hockey


There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:54 a.m.
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Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.



There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan


IN is own ZONE OK- but didn't carry the puck in the middle zone, strong as puck protection depth on the offensive zone to leave more room for Gaudreau... but he is not a GOAT like you describe him.
Give him a 10-15% edge over Tatar + he is younger... = 2nd draft pick for the difference
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:56 a.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.



There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan


Okay, you're seriously overvaluing him. Not because other CGY forwards suck that he becomes a franchise C. Even if CGY values him more than his real market value, they couldn't move him if that was their ask. Don't think they plan on moving him either, anyways. He is a great player, not an elite one; at least, not consistently enough.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?


its more like he's not available for anything less. Lindholm is a slightly inferior version of Marner or Stone. He does everything; powerplay, PK, score, make plays, face offs, backcheck, hit, block shots. Not to mention he is the only right handed winger on the team and he is on a cap hit of only 4.85M. Think about what it would cost for Carolina to move Slavin, or what a team would have to offer you for Marchand. That is how untouchable Lindholm is to Calgary only player on the team less available is Tkachuk.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
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its more like he's not available for anything less. Lindholm is a slightly inferior version of Marner or Stone. He does everything; powerplay, PK, score, make plays, face offs, backcheck, hit, block shots. Not to mention he is the only right handed winger on the team and he is on a cap hit of only 4.85M. Think about what it would cost for Carolina to move Slavin, or what a team would have to offer you for Marchand. That is how untouchable Lindholm is to Calgary only player on the team less available is Tkachuk.


Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
IN is own ZONE OK- but didn't carry the puck in the middle zone, strong as puck protection depth on the offensive zone to leave more room for Gaudreau... but he is not a GOAT like you describe him.
Give him a 10-15% edge over Tatar + he is younger... = 2nd draft pick for the difference


a 2nd? Tatar is maybe half the player Lindholm is. Like they arent even remotely comparable. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.



Tatar > Lindholm rn and I add mete for the age and he can play top 4 minutes...
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.
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Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.


It's a good thing hes not on the market then
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
a 2nd? Tatar is maybe half the player Lindholm is. Like they arent even remotely comparable. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about



First do you watch Tatar play one time before for say that’s... I don’t think
Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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Tatar > Lindholm rn and I add mete for the age and he can play top 4 minutes...


Only top 4 minutes Mete gets with the Flames in in Stockton. You've got screws loose if you think Tatar is better than Lindholm
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Is this a joke? Elias Lindholm is a stud Lindholm's best season 78 points Tomas Tatar's best season 61 points an aging winger and a bottom pairing LD doesn't get you a stud like Lindholm.


Ya ok a stud. Everyone becomes a stud playing with Gaudreau and Monahan. He wasn't such a stud when he was in CAR was he now.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:14 a.m.
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Ya ok a stud. Everyone becomes a stud playing with Gaudreau and Monahan. He wasn't such a stud when he was in CAR was he now.


Stud or not he's still better then Tomas Tatar and like i said that's not even debatable.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


Lmaoo, this package might not be enough for Lindholm but youre definitely trolling with the 1st, Zuke, Danault and Petry 😂 Lindholm’s stats are almost identical to Domi’s and Domi isn’t worth a package like that.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Only top 4 minutes Mete gets with the Flames in in Stockton. You've got screws loose if you think Tatar is better than Lindholm


These valuations of Mete are laughable, like he's some major extra in a deal, he isn't worth the difference between Tatar and Lindholm.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
These valuations of Mete are laughable, like he's some major extra in a deal, he isn't worth the difference between Tatar and Lindholm.


Hes a 3rd pair LD on a competitor. Flames already have Gio, Hanifin, Valimaki who are all better. Kylington is probably a coin toss
Sep. 16, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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So you want us to downgrade, as well as take another LHD???? No thank you!
 
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