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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:16 a.m.
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Interesting trade idea.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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pretty easy decline from the Rangers. Basically any Domi to NYR trade is going to have Strome going the other way.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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Look the value might not be off but we aren’t trading lemieux
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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pretty easy decline from the Rangers. Basically any Domi to NYR trade is going to have Strome going the other way.


LOL, "pretty easy decline from the Rangers" somehow with them getting by far the best player in the deal.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
pretty easy decline from the Rangers. Basically any Domi to NYR trade is going to have Strome going the other way.


You could trade Strome elsewhere after
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Look the value might not be off but we aren’t trading lemieux


Gotta give to get . Lemieux is a 4 liner lol .
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Look the value might not be off but we aren’t trading lemieux


Any GM will trade an 18-point plugger for a 50- to 70-point producer, so Lemieux-Domi is a no-brainer, assuming Domi is a player they'd want to invest $5M+ into. (Domi would be a media star in NYC). Would it require a swap of picks to balance out? Not sure.

Gauthier has yet to become anything close to the sum of his parts, but the jury is still out. Juulsen has been tantalizing when he's healthy but that seems to be about one week a year. This makes sense if the NYR want a steady RHD and are willing to take a risk that Noah's injury plague is behind him.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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LOL, "pretty easy decline from the Rangers" somehow with them getting by far the best player in the deal.


The 1st rounder is probably the best player in the deal tbh.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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The 1st rounder is probably the best player in the deal tbh.


#22 overall this year. Pittsburgh just gave up #15 overall this year for what again? I'll take Max's trade value over that package any day of the week.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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You could trade Strome elsewhere after


I'm not sure the Rangers want to hurt their leverage like that. Rangers around going to add 5 mil in net cap with the dead money they have elsewhere. Hence why someone like Strome would most likely go the other way. Which is fine since he'd play RW for ya'll anyway.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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The 1st rounder is probably the best player in the deal tbh.

The #22 is a lottery ticket lol. Domi scores 70 pts 1 year ago and would easily be a constant 60 pt player on the Rangers . Domi is 98% the best player in that deal
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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The #22 is a lottery ticket lol. Domi scores 70 pts 1 year ago and would easily be a constant 60 pt player on the Rangers . Domi is 98% the best player in that deal


Than why are you getting rid of him so easy? I want nothing to do with Domi at the 2C spot if we are moving the Carolina pick. Better options to be had.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:38 a.m.
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#22 overall this year. Pittsburgh just gave up #15 overall this year for what again? I'll take Max's trade value over that package any day of the week.


Using JR trades is the new "if Adam Larsson is worth Taylor Hall that means...."

Not sure you want to use the guy who gave Jack Johnson a long term deal as the barometer of "value"
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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Than why are you getting rid of him so easy? I want nothing to do with Domi at the 2C spot if we are moving the Carolina pick. Better options to be had.

Because we want to give top 6 spot to KK and Suzuki. Moreover , Danault fits way better 3rd C role than Domi . No space for Domi in the top 9. Voila
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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Because we want to give top 6 spot to KK and Suzuki. Moreover , Danault fits way better 3rd C role than Domi . No space for Domi in the top 9. Voila


Cool. I would rather Danault anyway. Domi to NYR seems to fit in a lot of minds but doesnt make sense from the NYR perspective. Also everyone knows MTL is shopping Domi and he is a clown that wants a lot of money. His return is gonna be less exciting than you guys think.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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We don’t want Domi
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.
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I'm not sure the Rangers want to hurt their leverage like that. Rangers around going to add 5 mil in net cap with the dead money they have elsewhere. Hence why someone like Strome would most likely go the other way. Which is fine since he'd play RW for ya'll anyway.


Pretty sure that Bergevin isn't going to want to pay Strome a 1 year inflated arbitration award immediately after Panarin just goosed his stats only to have him walk as a UFA after year end. You're more than welcome to trade him to any other GM in the league however. The last time he was traded it was for Spooner who was more or less immediately buried in the AHL, no?
Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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Than why are you getting rid of him so easy? I want nothing to do with Domi at the 2C spot if we are moving the Carolina pick. Better options to be had.


I would be fascinated to hear what better options are available than Domi for the #22 overall pick.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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The only interest for the habs to send Domi in NYR would be for DeAngelo+ Anderson or Domi+ 2nd for Buch... as we don't have any interest on bottom 6 players or Strome
Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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Pretty sure that Bergevin isn't going to want to pay Strome a 1 year inflated arbitration award immediately after Panarin just goosed his stats only to have him walk as a UFA after year end. You're more than welcome to trade him to any other GM in the league however. The last time he was traded it was for Spooner who was more or less immediately buried in the AHL, no?



Yup just 2 months after Tatar was traded to you guys as a cap dump....Again, might want to avoid using Chiarelli trades as the barometer of "value". Seems like everyone gets better once they leave Edmonton too. I mean look how AA's value took a nose dive once he got there. Frankly I'd say Strome putting up 35 points playing primarily with Jujhar Khaira and never sharing the ice with McD or Drai is kinda impressive.

Also not sure why Habs fans want to call Domi a 70 point player when he's been an absolute model of consistency. He's played 5 NHL seasons, in 4 of them he's put up between 45 and 52 points. That's a tight window, and Domi hits it 80% of the time. It's rare and impressive to find a player so consistent, not sure why you wouldn't be proud of that.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Yup just 2 months after Tatar was traded to you guys as a cap dump....Again, might want to avoid using Chiarelli trades as the barometer of "value". Seems like everyone gets better once they leave Edmonton too. I mean look how AA's value took a nose dive once he got there. Frankly I'd say Strome putting up 35 points playing primarily with Jujhar Khaira and never sharing the ice with McD or Drai is kinda impressive.

Also not sure why Habs fans want to call Domi a 70 point player when he's been an absolute model of consistency. He's played 5 NHL seasons, in 4 of them he's put up between 45 and 52 points. That's a tight window, and Domi hits it 80% of the time. It's rare and impressive to find a player so consistent, not sure why you wouldn't be proud of that.


The point is that Bergevin isn't going to want Strome. Not even for a 2nd round pick. Personally, I think Domi is a fit with the Rangers. If Rangers fans don't think Domi would be valuable as a center on their top 3 lines they're entitled to that opinion. I think Gorton would jump at that trade, but then again, only he knows for sure.
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Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Any GM will trade an 18-point plugger for a 50- to 70-point producer, so Lemieux-Domi is a no-brainer, assuming Domi is a player they'd want to invest $5M+ into. (Domi would be a media star in NYC). Would it require a swap of picks to balance out? Not sure.

Gauthier has yet to become anything close to the sum of his parts, but the jury is still out. Juulsen has been tantalizing when he's healthy but that seems to be about one week a year. This makes sense if the NYR want a steady RHD and are willing to take a risk that Noah's injury plague is behind him.


we don't need another RHD and yea we may want to invest in a domi although I feel as though they just keep strome with his chemistry with panarin. Its not the 18 points that are the thing its the character and the physicality that cant be replaced with a guy that can grow into a tom wilson esc kinda player. So I don't mind going after domi but wont be for him
Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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The point is that Bergevin isn't going to want Strome. Not even for a 2nd round pick. Personally, I think Domi is a fit with the Rangers. If Rangers fans don't think Domi would be valuable as a center on their top 3 lines they're entitled to that opinion. I think Gorton would jump at that trade, but then again, only he knows for sure.



The point is that Gorton isn't going to want Domi. Not even for a 2nd round pick. Personally, I think Strome is a fit with the Habs. If Habs fans don't think Strome would be valuable as a winger on their top 3 lines they're entitled to that opinion. I think Bergevin would jump at that trade, but then again, only he knows for sure.


Yeah this checks out both ways.
Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
The only interest for the habs to send Domi in NYR would be for DeAngelo+ Anderson or Domi+ 2nd for Buch... as we don't have any interest on bottom 6 players or Strome


.... if we do trade dlo for him its a straight swap we don't add lias
Sep. 16, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
we don't need another RHD and yea we may want to invest in a domi although I feel as though they just keep strome with his chemistry with panarin. Its not the 18 points that are the thing its the character and the physicality that cant be replaced with a guy that can grow into a tom wilson esc kinda player. So I don't mind going after domi but wont be for him


Going after Domi without offering an effective 4th liner or the 22nd overall pick (let alone both plus) is akin to going to a brothel with a wet spaghetti noodle.
 
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