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Getting the old band back

Created by: AlphaHockey65
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2020
Published: Sep. 16, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
2$825,000
2$900,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Bonino, Nick ($750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Nashville gains some cap and acquires a younger winger in this trade. + gets a 4th to help the struggling Penguins with their finances
NSH
  1. McCann, Jared [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Pens get their guy back in Nick Bonino at a reasonable 3 mil for 3C
2.
PIT
  1. Johnson, Erik
Additional Details:
Pens get Johnson for 3RD who's around the same age as Hornqvist. Not a bad player, a tad overpaid but we need more depth on D than forward.
COL
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
Additional Details:
Avs have a good depth on D and Johnson at 6 mil is a luxury for them. Hornqvist would fit nicely on the Avs and should net about 20 goals a season.
3.
PIT
    Not anaheim.
    But return would be close to a 2nd rounder or struggling young player like McCann
    ANA
    1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
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    $3,200,000$3,200,000
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    UFA - 2
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    UFA - 3
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    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
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    C, LW
    RFA - 4
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    $825,000$825,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
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    UFA - 3
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    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 3
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    $4,025,175$4,025,175
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    UFA - 5
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    UFA - 1
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    RD
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    UFA - 1
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    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $853,333$853,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.
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    Nope. Avs aren't taking on an aging and often injured winger. Johnson is the heart and soul of the team, and the organization loves him. Easy pass.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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    avs decline

    Plus you will have to shed another 10m off this roster, sounds like Pens are going with an intnercal cap int he low 70s.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Foppa21
    Nope. Avs aren't taking on an aging and often injured winger. Johnson is the heart and soul of the team, and the organization loves him. Easy pass.


    Figured. I like his game and he's a great guy to have on the team. Hornqvist isn't a slouch tho. He's a PP machine who could easily net you 20 goals.

    The avs have Timmins, Byram coming up so I'm not sure how long they plan on keeping Johnson
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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    avs decline

    Plus you will have to shed another 10m off this roster, sounds like Pens are going with an intnercal cap int he low 70s.


    Bonino only makes 2.4 mil in actual salary.
    High 70s is very reasonable for a team that still wants to compete.
    Johnson is a longshot and personally I think hornqvist gets moved no matter what to meet the internal cap
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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    Preds decline. Can't see NSH having much interest in McCann.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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    Preds decline. Can't see NSH having much interest in McCann.


    I mean for a pending UFA and a pick. I don't see why they wouldn't be interested in a younger player
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    Figured. I like his game and he's a great guy to have on the team. Hornqvist isn't a slouch tho. He's a PP machine who could easily net you 20 goals.

    The avs have Timmins, Byram coming up so I'm not sure how long they plan on keeping Johnson


    Which is fine, but that's not what the Avs need. EJ is a PK workhorse and the leader of the d-corps, so even with those younger guys coming in, he wouldn't be the first guy out. Zadorov, Cole, and Graves go before EJ.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    Bonino only makes 2.4 mil in actual salary.
    High 70s is very reasonable for a team that still wants to compete.
    Johnson is a longshot and personally I think hornqvist gets moved no matter what to meet the internal cap


    you have 300k in cap space. Cut 10m in salary then you will have a realistic look at what you can add
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    you have 300k in cap space. Cut 10m in salary then you will have a realistic look at what you can add


    you're insane if you think the Penguins are cutting 10 million in salaries.
    It'll be high 70s payroll. There's no way they make that work

    Secondly, cap space is not payroll. You have to look at actual salaries
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Foppa21
    Which is fine, but that's not what the Avs need. EJ is a PK workhorse and the leader of the d-corps, so even with those younger guys coming in, he wouldn't be the first guy out. Zadorov, Cole, and Graves go before EJ.


    Agreed. I'd like Ian Cole back please
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    I mean for a pending UFA and a pick. I don't see why they wouldn't be interested in a younger player


    3rd line is pretty crowded, and I don't see McCann as a true 2nd line player. They should either get someone who'd be a legit upgrade for the top six, or give prospects like Tolvanen a real chance. McCann would just be a lateral move to maintain mediocrity. Bonino could absolutely be available, but I think NSH would be looking for picks, prospects, or help on the 3rd pair in return.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    you're insane if you think the Penguins are cutting 10 million in salaries.
    It'll be high 70s payroll. There's no way they make that work

    Secondly, cap space is not payroll. You have to look at actual salaries


    Pens have 69m in salaries committed to 16 players (67m cap hit)...so start chopping
    and thats what pens media is saying, they are looking at an internal cap of low 70s
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    Pens have 69m in salaries committed to 16 players (67m cap hit)...so start chopping
    and thats what pens media is saying, they are looking at an internal cap of low 70s


    1) Every team is getting an influx of cash from the Seattle expansion
    2) The Penguins are spending to the cap if management can show they are competing
    3) You are still delusional if you think the Penguins are finishing the season with 10 mil in cap space (Rutherford has also stated he is spending in FA)
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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    3rd line is pretty crowded, and I don't see McCann as a true 2nd line player. They should either get someone who'd be a legit upgrade for the top six, or give prospects like Tolvanen a real chance. McCann would just be a lateral move to maintain mediocrity. Bonino could absolutely be available, but I think NSH would be looking for picks, prospects, or help on the 3rd pair in return.


    You're right. Also idk what you guys are gonna do with Turris.
    But Bonino for picks/prospects is fair
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    1) Every team is getting an influx of cash from the Seattle expansion
    2) The Penguins are spending to the cap if management can show they are competing
    3) You are still delusional if you think the Penguins are finishing the season with 10 mil in cap space (Rutherford has also stated he is spending in FA)


    they arent getting any seattle money anytime soon, not for next season

    Im not the delusional one, this is what 2 penguins media members have stated that they are under the believed that the Pens will have an internal cap of low to mid 70s. If you are mad about that, go talk to them about their reporting
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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    they arent getting any seattle money anytime soon, not for next season

    Im not the delusional one, this is what 2 penguins media members have stated that they are under the believed that the Pens will have an internal cap of low to mid 70s. If you are mad about that, go talk to them about their reporting


    A lot of Penguins media is terrible. They are going to move out Hornqvist at the very least but it'll still be closer to mid to high 70s considering they still have 2 of the most expensive players in the league.
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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    You're right. Also idk what you guys are gonna do with Turris.
    But Bonino for picks/prospects is fair


    Turris isn't a bad player, it's just his contract that is. He's pretty much immovable right now, unless NSH takes a bath in retained salary and/or assets to in a trade. Best to keep him and play him for now. If he fully rebounds like he's been on track to since Hynes was hired, he'll regain some value. Either a team with injuries or depth issues takes a flyer on him, or possibly Seattle can be convinced to take him.
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    Sep. 16, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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    Turris isn't a bad player, it's just his contract that is. He's pretty much immovable right now, unless NSH takes a bath in retained salary and/or assets to in a trade. Best to keep him and play him for now. If he fully rebounds like he's been on track to since Hynes was hired, he'll regain some value. Either a team with injuries or depth issues takes a flyer on him, or possibly Seattle can be convinced to take him.


    I honestly think he will rebound. No point in moving the guy now especially if you have the cap
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    Sep. 16, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlphaHockey65
    A lot of Penguins media is terrible. They are going to move out Hornqvist at the very least but it'll still be closer to mid to high 70s considering they still have 2 of the most expensive players in the league.


    so the same media that penguins fans are claiming are legit sources connecting Murray to the Avs? So what is it...are they terrible and are wrong or are they legit and have solid inside info.

    Cant have your cake and eat it too when it comes to the media. Either they are terrible which discredit the murray rumours, or they are legit which puts credibility to the internal cap reports
    Sep. 16, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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    The lowest the Pens would go would be in the $75mil range. Also it has been reported that the "report" of the Pens having an internal cap, was false, so choose what you want to believe. The only issue with this roster is that no matter what us Pens fans want, JJ is going to be in the line-up next season. So whatever ACGM's do, they need to keep JJ in the line-up, it sucks, but it is what it is. Also the problem with assuming that Horny will be the one to go, is that he has a full NTC this season, so he has to want to go and the team getting him has to have the cap space available.
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