2021 Season- is this fair value for Manson considering Anaheim rebuild

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Created by: Russell_C

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2020

Published: Sep. 16, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya		2	$1,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan		2	$1,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Spezza, Jason		1	$800,000
Martin, Matt		2	$1,200,000

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Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$79,096,450	$0	$0	$2,403,550

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Martin, Matt $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 4		Spezza, Jason $800,000$800,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Rodrigues, Evan $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Manson, Josh $2,050,000$2,050,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2	Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Sep. 16, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.

Swedenheim

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id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.

Sep. 16, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.

Swedenheim

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other teams will find more value in those players than the ducks will.

Sep. 16, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Swedenheim

other teams will find more value in those players than the ducks will.

Quoting: Swedenheim

id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.

as a leafs fan, i don’t want to give up any of those assets for Manson.
i’d maybe do SDA and a 2nd. buts that’s about it.

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Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.

Russell_C

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Quoting: Swedenheim

id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.

Are you suggesting 2020 #15OA, 2021 1st round pick plus a 2nd or a 3rd is fair value for Manson?
Or Lilly and a 2nd? In your eyes is Lilly equivalent to two 1st round picks? Because thats the change between the two trades.

Im struggling to understand the logic here, that seems like a serious over pay for Manson

Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.

Arlotti47

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We don’t need / want these scraps for our only good RHD

Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:03 p.m.

Russell_C

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Quoting: Kukas26

as a leafs fan, i don’t want to give up any of those assets for Manson.
i’d maybe do SDA and a 2nd. buts that’s about it.

I agree, i tried to overpay in order to push the trade through, i think we could keep Dermott realistically

Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.

Russell_C

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Quoting: Arlotti47

We don’t need / want these scraps for our only good RHD

You are undervaluing the leafs players. top 6 LW, Bottom 4 LD with good potential, top 5 prospect, 2nd round pick. Anaheim is in need of a rebuild and these players fit every slot. Active players, future player and a draft pick

Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.

Swedenheim

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Quoting: Russell_C

i forgot to put an "or"
15th overall OR 2021 1st and a 2nd/3rd

Sep. 16, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Russell_C

I agree, i tried to overpay in order to push the trade through, i think we could keep Dermott realistically

while an upgrade to the blue line would help, we still have to see how lehtonen does. Dermott will get better, he’s still young. Liljegren and Sandin will be top 4 guys in 1-2 years.
Use the 15th pick to draft a RHD or a pretty good forward.

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